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Title: High capacity MP3 Players


BrotherEstapol - October 6, 2004 07:30 AM (GMT)
I'm considering getting an MP3 player with high storage capacity(ala, more than 20gigs), or a cheap USB Laptop HDD.

Obviously the first thing that comes to mind is the iPod range, but from what I've heard, they can't be used as external HDDs, which is what I'm really looking for....MP3 is mainly an extra. Plus I remember Trin saying that iTunes moves all your MP3's into different folders( :argh: ) that's the last thing I want in a MP3 player....

I've seen a few other 20-40gig MP3 players, but I can't remember what they were called, and I didn't see if they could be used has external HDDs.

Now my teacher at school has a 20gig USB Laptop HDD which cost him $80(from China. :P), but he said you can get them around that price here as the prices have gone down. The only problem I can see with those, is that I can't plug earphones in a listen to music...

So basically, I'm wondering if anyone knows of any high capacity MP3 players that can just used like USB thumb-drives? I'll have a look around myself, but if anyone has any info, please, post it here. :thumbsup:

If one doesn't exsist, I'm going to get a USB laptop HDD. :thumbsup:

Lazlow - October 6, 2004 07:56 AM (GMT)
Sound like you're after some sort of PocketPC

BrotherEstapol - October 6, 2004 08:02 AM (GMT)
Nahh, I don't want to pay more than $450 for it, and all I want is somthing that I can use as an external HDD and listen mp3's on. :)

~DC - October 6, 2004 08:15 AM (GMT)
I was sure that you can use an iPod for storage ability. I'm pretty confident I've heard that people have used the HD as a means to store video and text files. If it can't I'll be really disappointed, as I'm buying one primarily for mp3 usage but would definitely use remaining storage to hold other files.

BrotherEstapol - October 6, 2004 08:33 AM (GMT)
Well if I can use it as easily as my USB thumbdrive(plug and play), and I don't have to use iTunes....

~DC - October 6, 2004 08:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BrotherEstapol @ Oct 6 2004, 06:33 PM)
Well if I can use it as easily as my USB thumbdrive(plug and play), and I don't have to use iTunes....

You definitely have to use iTunes for music but I'm pretty sure it can be used just like a USB drive, only bigger. ;)

Film Guru - October 6, 2004 08:47 AM (GMT)
Okay, here's a slight rundown of the iPod scene.

iTunes rocks. Yes, it puts songs in different folders. However, it clones them into new folders, sorted by name, album, artist, etc. So really, it's extremely conveniant, sorting it all for you. And of course, if you're worried about being able to find 'em, it's child's play. Either listen to them through iTunes or if you want the file itself, highlight the song in iTunes and say "show file". Easy stuff.

iTunes makes dealing with the iPod a breeze. Drop and drag whatever you want, simple as that. And yes, it's also a portable hard drive. It's as plug and play as you can get mate.

However, for all this awesome simplicity and ease of use, the 40GB iPod will force you to fork out $600. So you might be outta luck there.

But as an extremely happy 20GB iPod owner I can say it was worth forking out the cash...

thebigm - October 6, 2004 08:53 AM (GMT)
Yep, and the only place it moves your music is to \My Music\iTunes\iTunes Music with seperate folders for the artist and then album.

And I am certain that the iPod has plug and play... http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=215182 and if you dont want to use iTunes for transfering music there is a winamp plugin http://www.softpedia.com/public/cat/20/2/20-2-2.shtml
Just a few searches on google found the result you were looking for :)

Woody - October 6, 2004 09:11 AM (GMT)
Also, by default, iTunes moves all the folders around, but it can be changed.
All you have to do is untick the box that says "Copy files to iTunes folder when adding to library." It then just plays them from the original location. Although having it organize them itself is rather handy.

You can most definetly use the iPod as a hard drive also. It appears as a removable device under My Computer.

I own a 4G iPod 40GB and I'm very happy with it. The only problem I've had is that one time it randomly froze for no reason, there's also a slight 'rainbow effect' on the screen under certain light conditions' Refraction or something, not enough to be concerning though.

Heard good things about these though. Worth checking out if you can find them for a good price.
http://www.iriveramerica.com/products/H120.aspx

BrotherEstapol - October 6, 2004 09:25 AM (GMT)
Well I really don't like the idea of iTunes moving 15gigs of files, just so that it knows where they are...my files are sort out quite nicly thankyou. :)

As for decoding, I've been using MusicMatch since I got my old MP3 player, so decoding wasn't an issue.

But if there's no way you can use an iPod and not have iTunes copy a whole HDD partition, I think I'll see what else there is first. ;)

Good to know it's plug and play though. :thumbsup:


I've been looking at a thing called an Archos Jukebox(:S) seems to match up to the iPod specs-wise:

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It provides the awesome capability of recording directly from any audio source - real-time, on-the-fly recording of up to 300 hours (500 audio CD's* - 5000 songs*) of top quality music in MP3 format.

You can record direct from a stereo, CD player radio, or microphone via the stereo, line-in jack without needing to use a computer.

It is also a voice recorder with a built-in microphone. You can record from any analog or digital sources at bit-rates up to 160 kbps and can port your recordings back to the PC without any specialized software.

This exciting new Jukebox Recorder/Player is the first palm-sized, real-time MP3 encoder, plus an MP3 Player and 20GB Hard Disk that connects to the computer through an ultra-fast USB 2.0 interface. There's no need for special software to download MP3 songs. Just drag & drop MP3 files from Windows Explorer. With the USB 2.0 interface, the transfer data speed is up to 480 Mbits per second. [b]The Jukebox Recorder 20 can be used as an optional hard disk store all your data, images, softwares, etc.[b]

Update with a simple click at the ARCHOS website, and download the latest firmware that supports additional software extensions.


Pitty it ain't "teh sex". :\

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Plus it uses AA batteries, doesn't have a built in one like mobiles. :(


Thanks Woody! :woot: I was trying to remember what that one was called, cause I saw it in JB Hi-Fi the other day.

I'll do some research into it. :thumbsup:

EDIT: Weird, the US model with comes with the remote, is roughly $457AUD, but the cheapest I can see one for on this site is $630. :S
http://www.mp3direct.com.au/webstore/pdinf...s_subcategory=&
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I'd say that that's the rrp, so I'll have a look around while I'm in Melbourne on the weekend, I'm sure I'll see it cheaper there. :)

Spag - October 6, 2004 10:47 AM (GMT)
The largest mp3/flash drive I have seen is 512mb :S

BrotherEstapol - October 6, 2004 11:10 AM (GMT)
Biggest I've see is 2gig....but the above players use actual Hard Drives. ;)

[DZ] - October 7, 2004 12:00 AM (GMT)
Lol, I saw the advert for th iriver on SBS. It sucks ass man! Estapol, go join your local MBF and get a free MP3 player, as simple as that! :P *I'm not kidding*

_MetalliX_ - October 7, 2004 01:47 AM (GMT)
Oh wait, I always thought that the iPod could be used as a portable HDD. Thats the whole reason I asked my dad to get me one on his trip, I mean how am I spose to fill 40GB with just music? :o

~DC - October 7, 2004 02:59 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (_MetalliX_ @ Oct 7 2004, 11:47 AM)
Oh wait, I always thought that the iPod could be used as a portable HDD. Thats the whole reason I asked my dad to get me one on his trip, I mean how am I spose to fill 40GB with just music? :o

You can use them as a plug-n-play USB connection. Apparently just transfer the files from a USB port and when you want to use them the iPod will come under My Computer as a removable device.

Summary, ask Woody for my info. :P

Film Guru - October 7, 2004 04:09 AM (GMT)
Yes! Listen to DC! For the last time, iPods are also a plug-n-go portable hard drive...

_MetalliX_ - October 7, 2004 06:59 AM (GMT)
Ah, good... 40GB of portability...

I'm in heaven, no more wasting CD-R's. :)

BrotherEstapol - October 12, 2004 03:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE ([DZ)
,Oct 7 2004, 10:00 AM] Lol, I saw the advert for th iriver on SBS. It sucks ass man! Estapol, go join your local MBF and get a free MP3 player, as simple as that! :P *I'm not kidding*

I've already got an MP3 player, but overall I can only hold just over 300mb, and it doesn't use USB so it's very slow. :(

And why is the iRiver bad? Seems better than an iPod...

_MetalliX_ - October 31, 2004 09:13 AM (GMT)
Who said the iRiver was bad, no one is allowed to bad mouth it now that I own one...

[m]averick - October 31, 2004 09:35 AM (GMT)
What's this about iTunes/iPod moving music folders around? I have a 20gb iPod and I haven't noticed this...

jckc - January 25, 2007 03:32 PM (GMT)
i brought a 512gb mp3 player for 12pound 3 weeks ago i can store up to 150 songs so far on it!!!




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