Title: Piracy : 1 - Media Companies: 0
Drake - September 22, 2007 03:20 PM (GMT)
TPB files charges against media companies
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Thanks to the email-leakage from MediaDefender-Defenders we now have proof of the things we've been suspecting for a long time; the big record and movie labels are paying professional hackers, saboteurs and ddosers to destroy our trackers.
While browsing through the email we identified the companies that are also active in Sweden and we have tonight reported these incidents to the police. The charges are infrastructural sabotage, denial of service attacks, hacking and spamming, all of these on a commercial level. |
The companies that are being reported are the following:
* Twentieth Century Fox, Sweden AB
* Emi Music Sweden AB
* Universal Music Group Sweden AB
* Universal Pictures Nordic AB
* Paramount Home Entertainment (Sweden) AB
* Atari Nordic AB
* Activision Nordic Filial Till Activision (Uk) Ltd
* Ubisoft Sweden AB
* Sony Bmg Music Entertainment (Sweden) AB
* Sony Pictures Home Entertainment Nordic AB
Stay tuned for updates.
In short, The Pirate Bay is reporting the companies being pirated from to the police for trying to stop the piracy (in an illegal manner).
God bless Sweden copyright laws.
http://thepiratebay.org/blog
FreakTrigger - September 24, 2007 01:03 AM (GMT)
I was watching this unfold... it's quite interesting stuff. Have you read the emails that were leaked?
D43M0N - September 24, 2007 01:53 AM (GMT)
I did, they were on SA a while back; they're really incriminating stuff.
FreakTrigger - September 24, 2007 03:51 AM (GMT)
Haha, it really is - it doesn't amount to anything more than entrapment.
They were basically setting everything up for a service geared towards piracy, even preparing torrent files of copyrighted material, just to get pirates into lawsuits for publicity that would ward off pirates.
The mind boggles.
Texta - October 8, 2007 09:55 AM (GMT)
Entrapment isn't a crime in a lot of countries (ie Australia) just fyi.
Random Hero - October 8, 2007 10:27 AM (GMT)
It's refreshing to see a pirate website on the offensive.
FreakTrigger - October 8, 2007 10:59 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Texta @ Oct 8 2007, 07:55 PM) |
| Entrapment isn't a crime in a lot of countries (ie Australia) just fyi. |
I don't feel that being legal is enough to make it morally right in the vast majority of situations.
Texta - October 9, 2007 08:00 AM (GMT)
I think it's no less moral than say having an intention to knowingly commit an illegal act.
Robert - October 10, 2007 06:35 AM (GMT)
Patents... Copyrights... Gee, how did the world ever function without them? Very nicely and with less legal fees I might add.
And you know people still innovated, invented and created. So, you can't use that argument to say that we need them. We need them because of human greed. Well that’s a noble reason… not.
Texta - October 10, 2007 09:24 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Robert @ Oct 10 2007, 05:35 PM) |
Patents... Copyrights... Gee, how did the world ever function without them? Very nicely and with less legal fees I might add.
And you know people still innovated, invented and created. So, you can't use that argument to say that we need them. We need them because of human greed. Well that’s a noble reason… not. |
Copyright laws have been around since the 1600s and I think it's a pretty big call to say that we're better off without them. And it's pretty meaningless to compare legal fees between now and 350 years ago.
Robert - October 10, 2007 09:58 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Texta @ Oct 10 2007, 07:24 PM) |
| QUOTE (Robert @ Oct 10 2007, 05:35 PM) | Patents... Copyrights... Gee, how did the world ever function without them? Very nicely and with less legal fees I might add.
And you know people still innovated, invented and created. So, you can't use that argument to say that we need them. We need them because of human greed. Well that’s a noble reason… not. |
Copyright laws have been around since the 1600s and I think it's a pretty big call to say that we're better off without them. And it's pretty meaningless to compare legal fees between now and 350 years ago.
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The laws are a balance between the greed of the originator and the benefit to the people. There is no moral backing to the concept. It is not an issue of Right versus Wrong. It is a matter of greed and contract law. Sometimes, the moral thing to do is civil disobedience - oppose outdated and ill-conceived laws that no longer serve the people.
FreakTrigger - October 11, 2007 02:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Texta @ Oct 9 2007, 06:00 PM) |
| I think it's no less moral than say having an intention to knowingly commit an illegal act. |
This becomes a tricky area - being willing to commit a crime if it was possible and appeared victimless is uninformed and not admirable, but is it really worse than going out of your way to victimize people for profit who wouldn't have committed a crime at all if you'd not offered them every tool to do so?
I refer to entrapment in all situations here, not just with regards to this incident - it's a real moral landmine issue with thousands of potential permutations.
Texta - October 11, 2007 07:36 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Robert @ Oct 10 2007, 08:58 PM) |
| QUOTE (Texta @ Oct 10 2007, 07:24 PM) | | QUOTE (Robert @ Oct 10 2007, 05:35 PM) | Patents... Copyrights... Gee, how did the world ever function without them? Very nicely and with less legal fees I might add.
And you know people still innovated, invented and created. So, you can't use that argument to say that we need them. We need them because of human greed. Well that’s a noble reason… not. |
Copyright laws have been around since the 1600s and I think it's a pretty big call to say that we're better off without them. And it's pretty meaningless to compare legal fees between now and 350 years ago.
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The laws are a balance between the greed of the originator and the benefit to the people. There is no moral backing to the concept. It is not an issue of Right versus Wrong. It is a matter of greed and contract law. Sometimes, the moral thing to do is civil disobedience - oppose outdated and ill-conceived laws that no longer serve the people.
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Copyright is definitely not an issue of Contract Law sorry mate and I think as long as you accept the market economy approach to governance that the whole western world has taken on than copyright is an extremely important and necessary part of it.
Removing copyright laws would only be viable if we had a dramatic move towards a socialist/communist state and I don't think that's happening any time soon which is probably a good thing. And while I guess there's certainly some possibility of tweaking the laws in some regards or provide greater government support to cover some costs in appropriate circumstances, the right of people to own the work that they create themselves is fairly fundamental.
Machiavelli - October 11, 2007 07:44 AM (GMT)
The media companies should be trying to change the law in Sweden, not resorting to criminal actions to sort out a legal nuisance - even if the law is "unjust".
Whether you agree with them or not, "an eye for an eye" shouldn't be a valid recourse.