Now don't get me wrong I'm no fanboy of any particular company name but I am a fan of the better product.

First off the PS3 comes out an entire year after the 360 and every game that launched looked worse than the 360 version (feel free to check Gamespot for the comparisons they did). Strange considering all the Sony generated hype about how amazing the graphics were going to be and how much stronger the PS3 was supposed to be than the 360.

And games....360 has tons of good games. Great shooter with everything from GoW to GRAW to Rainbow 6 to COD2 and 3 and so on. Not to mention all the racing and sports games and everything else. To be fair though the 360 could use a little more in the RPG department but it looks like that's picking up as well.

And look at the games coming soon to the 360....everything from Mass Effect, GRAW2, UT3, Dark Sector, Halo 3, Huxley, Two Worlds, Conan MMO (looks awesome), Bioshock, Assassins creed, Rogue Warrior, Kane & Lynch: Dead Men and so on...... and more and more you hear about PS3 exclusive titles going to the 360 and the 360 is the focus of the two versions.
And then there is the online service....Sony loses big time in this department. Again another great service from MS's 360 that the PS3 just can not compete with.

Now don't get me wrong PS3 is going to have some great games as well but where is the advantage in choosing it over the 360? Only thing I see as an advantage is the blu-ray player, assuming blu-ray wins that war. But then again do you really want to add the wear and tear from movies on your gaming console? I wouldn't that's for sure.

So I just don't get it....why the PS3? To me the PS3 has turned into a console that should have been a lot more than it is even this early in it's life and that's the reason it's in 3rd place now.

So what do you guys like so much about it? And I'm not just bashing here I really want to know what you guys see in the console...so please don't flame me.

I don't know if anyone on here actually owns a PS3, which means that no one sees anything in the console :P

It's not looking so hot for PS3 right now, but things can change, Home looks interesting, and if the console gets some good exclusives it'll be more attractive. Though the price tag is going to remain a barrier to entry for a lot of people and until it drops I cant see many people jumping on the PS3 bandwagon.

I'd only ever splash out on a PS3 if I had cash literally burning a hole in my pocket.

Graphically speaking, the PS3 is more capable than the 360, but only marginally, probably not making much of a difference, but for some I guess it could be a deciding factor.

Also, there's always MGS4. :D


borg: "Though the price tag is going to remain a barrier to entry..."
:lol: You big economist. :D

Well I own both systems and at this stage I see little reason to own a PS3.

The 360 on the other hand is crushing the competition in terms of games and functionality. Love my 360 - Ambivalent to my Wii and PS3.

I agree. There's no reason to own a PS3, yet. Like all consoles it starts slow, but eventually it will get some worthwhile games and the price will drop. That's when I'll be buying one. But atm, 360>>>PS3

Reasons I would choose a PS3 over a 360:

Wi-Fi
Home
MGS4
Blu-Ray is a bonus
1080p - out of box, with one model to choose from (NB although you do need to buy the cable separately)

These are the things that the PS3 offers me that a 360 doesn't. As for acutally purchasing a PS3... I'd rather do my hi-def gaming on my PC.

I like how my Wii connects to my wireless network, and I like having my wireless router tucked away in the office, out of sight. Thinking of having to buy a peripheral or having my Xbox360 on my desk next to my PC doesn't fit well with me... it's just how I have my house laid out... PC in office. Laptop and Wii in lounge.

I look at the 360's HD-DVD addon, Elite box, wi fi peripheral et al as just as tack-on patches to cover what might have been shortsightedness on MS's part.

I'll agree that the PS3 is struggling (much like the PS2 struggled from a lack of titles after launch, before GT3 came out), and that it has a big uphill battle against the well-established Xbox360, though. Maybe another 6 months will reveal some more titles that makes the PS3 more appealing to those who are weighing up the purchase of either system.

I used this analogy before: the Xbox 360 is the HSV GTS to Sony's BMW 5 series. The HSV goes just as fast (if not faster), is a lot of fun and makes all the right noises, but those who drive beemer's appreciate other things, like ride quality, prestige, style, refinement and forward thinking technology. The Wii is a toyota corolla.

HSV uses current technology, beefs it up and adds other bits to offer ultimate enjoyment.

BMW develops its own technology and integrates it into the car to make it one cohesive package.

Sorry... we were talking about consoles...

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Yeah well, when you've been studying it for years it becomes part of your everyday language :P

They're options, I don't want to upgrade from dvd's to hd dvds, I have a wired internet connection and have absolutely no use for "HDMI". I want the games which is what it should be all about. PS3 forces all these down my throat at a ridiculous price even though I don't need or want any of them.

T'is true. 360 does give you the luxury of choice. I guess some people could see the PS3 as cramming something down the throat and forcing you into owning something you don't necessarily want... whereas others may like integration into one device.

I mean, back when they first came out, I wouldn't have bought a DVD player if I had to purchase an add-on to make it play CDs as well. Sure, it's an option, but I would choose one that could play CDs as well. This is just a crude hypothetical, though.

This is horses for courses, I guess. Your thread title asks for a subjective opinion, which I gave... unless your question was rhetorical...

Your situation is different to mine. If I purchase a PS3, those features are what I would use. It's why I would choose one over the other. It's why people buy x product over y product - through determining what they deem as better value for their needs. You use wired... I don't. Maybe I want to utilise a 1080p display.

I also do agree that games are what a machine should be about. I don't think that 1080p, increased storage space and wireless networking won't be beneficial for games in the long run, as they continue to grow in size and scope. The PS3 promises this (although it has yet to truly deliver, at this point in time).

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Unless Sony manages to retain their current exclusives/add more compelling exclusives, I can't see myself getting a PlayStation 3 anytime soon. Significantly weaker online play, no achievements, and the 360 exclusives are staggering. The Halo games alone are a huge advantage, and there's no way I'd pass on titles such as Mass Effect and BioShock.

Sony will have a tough time selling themselves to established 360 owners.

Um, I'd say the PS3 is the only console to have a slow start this generation. The Wii took off like a bat out of hell, and X360 launch sales were nothing to baulk at.

:P

What redeeming features could the PS3 have if it loses in both games and online play. The graphics are the same. You can download TV shows and Movies off live. What does PS3 have.

I like Andy's metaphoric car discussion and it would all be true except for one thing. The PS3 does not handle like a luxury car.

On paper Andy's spot on but the fact is that integration is not a watchword for the PS3. Everything is seperated, nothing really talks to other aspects of the machine. Even the much lauded 1080p out of the box is actually absolute bullshit since you have to go and purchase a seperate cable to enjoy HD content. That's right... the PS3 is not HD ready out of the box.


The 360 is perhaps the most well integrated system I've ever looked at. Using the system is an absolute dream. There was a great New York Times article talking about the differences between the two systems. You speak of the PS3 being a BMW? Does this sound like a BMW to you?

I think the goal was to make the PS3 the console equivalent of a european luxury auto but it simply isn't. Having a father who was an Australian drag racing champion and therefor a bit of a car head, I've had the opportunity to get behind the wheel (or at least sit in the passenger seats) of many great European cars and they simply don't fuck up the simply stuff the way Sony has with the PS3.

Interesting read.

I guess therein lies the difference between what the consumer understands and perceives about a product versus the actual experience in itself.

I mean, some people wouldn't even know about owners experiencing stuff like that and buy a PS3 based upon the features and (perceived) integration I mentioned above.

Looking at it from where I am (ie not owning either 360 or PS3), and from weighing up the features based upon the marketing material and what's written on websites, I formed the "car" analogy and based my answer to the question of "why would you choose PS3 over 360" on that.

Moral of the story: Read reviews. Get hands on experience. Talk to other owners of the hardware.

P.S. PS3=BMW seems more apt now. Have you tried using iDrive whilst actually driving? :) ugh.

Hardware Sales

Platform 27-May 3-Jun

Wii 83,272 90,878
DS 128,141 124,272
PS3 16,945 15,031
PSP 39,489 36,971
Xbox 360 52,809 61,209

It seems like trouble again for the ps3. In addition being outsold drastically by the Wii and 360, the Ps3 is the only console which is selling less and less each week. The PS3 sold 1,000 less units last week than the week before while more wii's sold last week than the week before.. same with the 360. The 360 and Wii sales continue to grow while the ps3's sales continue to slide. The gap is growing week by week.

Why would I choose PS3 over the 360? I give you four words.

Gran Turismo

(and)

Team ICO.

Gran Turismo as a franchise is enough to make me shell out whatever price the console is at the time to get my hands on the latest installment. Sure, the franchise may not have improved anywhere near as much as everyone wants it to, but on a personal level it's still Gran Turismo to me and that means that I can't get enough of it.

As for the Team ICO thing, well really, does that even need explaining? ICO came first and blew me away. Shadow of the Colossus came afterwards and again, blew me away. I fully expect their next project, whatever it is, to do the same and yes I would buy a console on their coming project alone.

But to better answer the question for this present day, let me try again.

Why would I choose a PS3 over a 360?

Quite simply, I wouldn't.

The 360 is just over a year into its lifespan (well since it launched anyway, my personal console isn't a year old yet) and I already own 20 games. TWENTY games. I struggled to reach that amount with my original Xbox and my Gamecube. Infact I think the only console I managed to reach that number (and beat it) with is the PS2. So yeah, twenty games and not even a year old for my console. I think that says something right there, don't you?

And that's not even mentioning the games already out that I am still yet to own and would like to, nor is it mentioning all of the really awesome looking titles on the way. BioShock, Halo 3, GTA IV, Mass Effect, Too Human, The Darkness, DiRT, Forza 2, Burnout Paradise, Splinter Cell: Conviction, Blue Dragon, Eternal Sonata, Lost Odyssey...

Want me to keep going?

No... no....

Your point has been made. The 360 is our lord and saviour. :D

Sony is targeting the HD customer by pushing the PS3 as a cheap Blu-Ray player... I actually have had to help a few blokes who bought the PS3 for that reason alone. :blink:

personally i love my xbox too much! i have never been a playstation chick and i dont think the ps3 is gunna change anything :blink:

It has almost been 4 months since I made my last post in here and after re-reading it, I absolutely stick by it. 4 months on and with E3 and soon, the Tokyo Game Show to be out of the way I still have absolutely no reason whatsoever to buy a PS3. Sure, some of the games the console has on the way or whatever look quite cool and I do have an interest in them, but none of them are enough for me to fork over my money to buy the console. Hell, not even Gran Turismo 5: Prologue (which looks fantastic I might add) is enough to make me want to buy the console yet.

Is that saying something about the PS3 at the moment, or are my gaming 'needs' being so satisfied at the moment that nothing else is important to me at the moment?

I don't know and to be honest, I don't care either. The more months the PS3 remains unnecessary to me, the more money and time I have to experience the gems on a console I do own - the 360.

But I do have to say though, as soon as Team ICO announce their new project things will start to change...

There is nothing wrong with buying a system for a game that you really really really want to play. Chances are, once you have the system, you'll find others that you like. That ONE game is the one that pulls you off the fence.

System Sellers really are just that, things to get the fence sitters to hop off the fence. From there the rest of the games can be sold. Every system is sold on at least one game to people.

That ONE game is the ONE because it gets you to finally put down the money for the system. The tipper.

^ Yep, which is exactly why I will still buy a PS3 at some point. It's only a matter of time before that one game comes along, and when it does I'll make the purchase. :D