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Random Hero - February 12, 2007 08:53 AM (GMT)
I was thinking what's a gaming forum without a topic like this? A bit of flaming and fanboyism can generate some good serious discussion. :)

Heres my opinion, PS3 is full of alot of advances which throws the price up, I want a console that plays games, not everything else, Xbox 360 is awesome but I wouldnt buy it simply because you have to pay for online play and there are rumours of a new black one. And the Wii is basically just for games and doesnt want to be a PC so its cheap and more importantly fun. So I would have to go for the Wii this generation mainly because im a cheap bastard and so are alot of other people around the world. :lol:

1. Wii 2. 360 3. PS3

ElPresidente - February 12, 2007 11:32 AM (GMT)
Well I own a 360 and a Wii.

The Wii has a lot of potential but at the moment it is largely unrealised. Furthermore while I agree graphics maketh not the game it is very frustrating to deal with 480p as my only resolution option with the system.

The 360 has a great lineup of games and 2007 looks set to improve that considerably. It has a significant level of power. Its online service is significantly better than the Wii and the PS3. Basically it has had a head start and is reaping the benefits.

The PS3, well nothing I'm really excited about exists so far on the system. I'll be grabbing one eventually but probably once MGS4 is out.

So for me it is 1. Xbox 360... big gap... 2. Wii and close by is the PS3 in third place.

BrotherEstapol - February 12, 2007 01:24 PM (GMT)
Yeah, pretty much agree with what Prez said.

360>Wii>PS3

I think the Wii vs PS3 thing is very much like, and I think will have the same outcome, as the DS vs PSP thing.
PSP had better graphics, and more multimedia capabilities than the DS; same thing with the Wii and PS3.
DS had some...less than innovative games at first, but it really kicked off in the 2nd and 3rd generation of titles, and again, I think that's gonna happen with the Wii.
Though I don't think the PS3 will do as bad as the PSP...that's assuming a price drop(to say $800 AUD?) happens a year after launch.

The 360 will have a massive lead on the PS3 till very late in the game methinks.

/backslash - February 12, 2007 02:50 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (BrotherEstapol @ Feb 12 2007, 10:24 PM)
Though I don't think the PS3 will do as bad as the PSP...that's assuming a price drop(to say $800 AUD?) happens a year after launch.

Speaking of which, click here for interesting PS3 news in our PS3 thread

I think the thread should go PS2>X360>Wii>PS3 :P The PS2 still remains as my primary console of choice and the fact that the PS3 doesn't contain anything I fancy, it's even better with a pricetag that's $800 cheaper than its counterpart!

The Xbox360 has some good games like Dead Rising and Enchanted Arms but it loses points for its "3 red lights of death" and that whole towel wrapping business. These Microsoft consoles simply aren't stable whereas look at Sony's PS2 - how many people have had problems with theirs? The only time something broke was due to the little disc laser burning out from overuse (like billions of hourse worth) but even that took a few years to happen whereas the X360 can giveup at anytime.

The Wii is sitting better than the PS3 because of its unique controller and has a lot more potential, plus it's getting attention from other game developers. The PS3 is basically a geared up model of the PS2 where it has all the bells and whistles but no substance and losing its once exclusive titles. Good to have if you want a Bluray player but not much else at this stage.

And that's my post :)

Qubert - February 12, 2007 03:01 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ElPresidente @ Feb 12 2007, 09:32 PM)
The PS3, well nothing I'm really excited about exists so far on the system. I'll be grabbing one eventually but probably once MGS4 is out.

Kojima wants to work on new games for the Wii and the 360, MGS4 will be the last one in the series so it will probably wont launch for at least a year and half mabye more. Well its the last one that kojima will direct anyway. If there is another Metal Gear game after this expect who ever is co-directing MGS 4 to be in complete control

I think Nintendo are limiting their console by not having the graphics jump and giving us interesting controls to play with instead. I hate to say it but in time the ps3 will surpass the both rivals. PS3>360>Wii

/backslash - February 12, 2007 03:16 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Qubert @ Feb 13 2007, 12:01 AM)
I think Nintendo are limiting their console by not having the graphics jump and giving us interesting controls to play with instead. I hate to say it but in time the ps3 will surpass the both rivals. PS3>360>Wii

Still a bloody fantastic deal as a retro system as well though. No more Nes/Snes/Megadrive/N64 with constant cartridge switching! Graphics aren't always the way of the future. Just because it's technically advanced means bugger all unless developers make the right games. Look at the Jaguar and the 3D0. Way ahead of the competition but died quicker than an astronaut taking his helmet off on a planet that doesn't have any oxygen (..wow, what a weird thing to say)

The Wii is great because it allows smaller companies to churn out decent games who don't have the big $ and a roman army empire of staff.

borgster101 - February 12, 2007 10:47 PM (GMT)
At the moment the whole Wii60 or PSWii thing is probably the best bet, there is little point in owning a "PS60" (PS3 and 360), since both consoles are so similar and essentially have the same games (except for the exclusives) so when deciding between a 360 and a PS3 it all comes down to what exclusives for the platform do you want and at the moment the 360 kills the PS3 in terms of better exclusive content.

And then you have the Wii, with essentially every game on the system being "exclusive" in some way, even multi format titles will be somewhat different because of the radicial different controls, but the best games on Wii are going to be the ones that are specifically designed for Wii, and therefore they would all be exclusive. At the moment there isn't a lot of excellent exclusive content for the Wii, but this will change in the future.

Nags - February 13, 2007 12:04 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (borgster101 @ Feb 13 2007, 08:47 AM)
At the moment the whole Wii60 or PSWii thing is probably the best bet, there is little point in owning a "PS60" (PS3 and 360), since both consoles are so similar and essentially have the same games (except for the exclusives) so when deciding between a 360 and a PS3 it all comes down to what exclusives for the platform do you want and at the moment the 360 kills the PS3 in terms of better exclusive content.

And then you have the Wii, with essentially every game on the system being "exclusive" in some way, even multi format titles will be somewhat different because of the radicial different controls, but the best games on Wii are going to be the ones that are specifically designed for Wii, and therefore they would all be exclusive. At the moment there isn't a lot of excellent exclusive content for the Wii, but this will change in the future.

good post borg! I entirely agree... Wii60 is my route

sunao-kun16 - February 13, 2007 05:15 AM (GMT)
I think that PS3 could seriously kick some ass but I go with Wii for the moment.

Machiavelli - February 15, 2007 02:34 PM (GMT)
If I had to make a choice right now my gut instinct says the Xbox 360, by a nose mind you. Obviously it's been around the longest, this has given Microsoft time to rectify its technical flaws and establish a large library of games which coincide with an astounding online service. Unlike Sega with the Dreamcast previously, I feel this head start has been executed far more shrewdly and this move alone could very well get Microsoft across the line in first place.

FreakyLime - February 15, 2007 04:47 PM (GMT)
@ Random Hero: Fan of the movie, Haggard, are you? (If not, Ryan Dunn plays a character called Random Hero.) (For you other folks, Ryan Dunn is a member of Jackass / CKY / Viva La Bam etc)

I'd probably pick the Wii. The ps3 talks big, but it really does nothing. Have you seen the way it has to play Oblivion?

And the Xbox 360 has a few good titles (Viva Pinata, Dead Rising, and more), but I really don't like majority of the microsoft fanbase, and I have a grudge against Xbox.

The Wii on the other hand is new, flashy, and has a lot of great games coming to it. (Super smash bros alone is a win ;) )

Robert - February 27, 2007 01:11 AM (GMT)
while sony and microsoft batte it out by adding more and more pointless BS to their systems and hyping nothing but better graphics, multimedia centers, blu-ray, hd-dvd, etc. nintendo is going about doing their own thing not really worried about anything but being innovative and making good games

honestly of all the next gen systems the Wii is looking the most promising

_MetalliX_ - February 27, 2007 01:35 AM (GMT)
I think the three consoles have been differentiated to an extent where they are no longer competing in the same market.

Each have been priced and built to fit three varying gaming markets, novelty, casual and hardcore. Which console is superior depends on which category you fall in to. I'd say I'm halfway between a novelty and casual gamer; that is if I had a Wii I would not be satisfied, however as the circumstances are with me now, I find that I am no longer using my 360 because I am not quite a casual gamer.

The Wii is built, designed and priced to provide novel entertainment for young children, as well as entertainment for two or more people in there teens or older.

The Xbox 360 is as much a multimedia centre as it is a gaming platform, and as such enters a higher market.

The PS3 is designed and priced for only the hardcore gamer, the ones who value competition as well as power.

NismoR34 - February 27, 2007 03:51 PM (GMT)
^ So where do I and other multi-console owners fall into then?

ultracrazy1 - February 27, 2007 11:48 PM (GMT)
imo it's WAY too early to rank these 3 consoles. That's pretty much it.

Tho I must admit the constant talk of Wii kicking ass and PS3 being so shit makes me want to throw up. Also, if I ask what console people prefer out of the last gen, PS2, XBX & GCN, so many people prefer GCN it's retarded. Forums do not represent gamers, they don't even represent hardcore gamers. It's all just shit talking and fanboyism.

HaZal2d0uS - March 14, 2007 03:42 AM (GMT)
The thing is, Wii is putting like the new evolution of interaction gaming. Creating a new component in which competition must compete. Currently they're winning...

X-Box360 and PS3 will be battling it out for ages...
I'm not an expert on the PS3(never will be)... Don't like the same controls and such...
But I think that graphix do come to somewhat of a key point. In that those graphix cards can only get so small... and fit so much. You must look at alternative gameplays/advancements besides just graphix... they'll always improve...

The downside with the 360 is that it really didn't get any smaller. Yes, the HD hookups are nice, especially on Madden '07...

When coming down to your choice... You must take into consideration (if you can buy only 1) :
Do you want to be moving? ... (Wii)
What are your favorite older games, as in exclusives (Xbox Only... etc..)

Robert - March 14, 2007 03:55 AM (GMT)
I believe all nex Gen consoles have their own Strengths. In terms of graphical capabilities, nothing has been settled between the PS3 and Xbox 360

DZ - March 16, 2007 11:10 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ultracrazy1 @ Feb 28 2007, 10:48 AM)
imo it's WAY too early to rank these 3 consoles. That's pretty much it.

Tho I must admit the constant talk of Wii kicking ass and PS3 being so shit makes me want to throw up. Also, if I ask what console people prefer out of the last gen, PS2, XBX & GCN, so many people prefer GCN it's retarded. Forums do not represent gamers, they don't even represent hardcore gamers. It's all just shit talking and fanboyism.

Now there's a good post! You are totally right good sir, its too early to rank the nextgen consoles. Most of the flagship titles are yet to come, wait til 2009 then start ranking the consoles.

Resident-Seven - March 16, 2007 11:41 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (_MetalliX_ @ Feb 27 2007, 11:35 AM)
I think the three consoles have been differentiated to an extent where they are no longer competing in the same market.

Each have been priced and built to fit three varying gaming markets, novelty, casual and hardcore. Which console is superior depends on which category you fall in to. I'd say I'm halfway between a novelty and casual gamer; that is if I had a Wii I would not be satisfied, however as the circumstances are with me now, I find that I am no longer using my 360 because I am not quite a casual gamer.

The Wii is built, designed and priced to provide novel entertainment for young children, as well as entertainment for two or more people in there teens or older.

The Xbox 360 is as much a multimedia centre as it is a gaming platform, and as such enters a higher market.

The PS3 is designed and priced for only the hardcore gamer, the ones who value competition as well as power.

I'd say the truely hardcore gamers, are PC gamers.

DZ - March 17, 2007 04:52 AM (GMT)
Maybe the majority but most PC gamers are hardcore to specific genres only, like FPS's and RTS. Its hardcore but its "boring" if you want my opinion. But I'm a console gamer so yeah...

dave_cool31 - March 17, 2007 05:30 AM (GMT)
Conveniently, I was just looking for somewhere to rant about how the PS3 costs $1000 and only includes composite cables.

I think that's complete rubbish and utterly ludicrous to charge $1000 for a console touted as a powerhouse of graphical splendour and not even include component cables or (dare I say) HDMI cables. Forcing consumers to pay extra to be able to take advantage of one of the PS3's major features is, to me, a rubbish move. At least they put HDMI back in for the cheap one...

Anyways, now that I'm done with my rant, I'll get to actually posting something that could appear to be a justified consideration of the topic question.

I have a Wii and my brother has a 360 and both are good for different reasons.

I like my Wii, but at the moment, however, I'm still waiting for more games for it - to me, Nintendo have proven that the hardware works, but like with the DS' launch, the great games are still somewhere in the pipeline. When they do inevitably arrive, however, I'm sure I'll be using the console a lot more than I have been.

360 is good, but even though it's been out for over a year, there still aren't a whole heap of games that appeal to me, personally, which is probably mostly because I don't play many violent games, which means the majority of the 360's A+ titles don't appeal to me. I'm totally looking forward to Forza 2, though. But also, because it's my brother's console and it's also connected to the same monitor (which is a 17" LCD as well, which is quite small, but not too bad) that he runs his computer through, I only have a chance to play it when he's not around, which is why I'm not sure whether or not to buy Guitar Hero when it launches for 360 (and because I'm trying to save money).

PS3 did not appeal to me straight off, mostly because I'm not particularly fond of Sony as a company, especially after they "borrowed" Nintendo's motion control idea, and they also shut down Lik-sang (which admittedly doesn't really affect me, but still added fuel to my personal anti-Sony fire). Misdemeanors notwithstanding, however, I must admit that, were the PS3 and 360 both the same price, I would be more likely to buy a PS3 at the moment than a 360, mostly because of what I said before about the lack of variety in the types of games available on 360 at the moment. And also because LittleBigPlanet looks awesome.


Overall, the PS3 and 360 both are obviously more powerful than Wii, which means much bigger environments, more immersive game worlds and also the potential for awesome physics models (LittleBigPlanet). Wii, however, has a cheaper price point and also has a lot more games that I'm looking forward to than the other two consoles, at the moment.

I'm pretty sure I'll like the Wii a lot more once the A+ game start rolling around, and it's my console of choice at the moment. If I had a whole ton of money I'd probably invest in a new monitor/TV and a PS3, but I don't have that kind of money, and even if I did I'd still keep my Wii. And 360 has gamerscores and will soon have Forza 2...

My verdict - all 3 are good, I'll keep my Wii, and if I had a million dollars I'd buy a PS3 and a new TV and buy my brother a nice monitor to run his 360 through :P.


If you read all that, you get a gold star

D43M0N - March 17, 2007 05:47 AM (GMT)
Put David, the PS3 is in demand because they didn't make enough. That means it has to be good.

dave_cool31 - March 17, 2007 05:53 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (D43M0N @ Mar 17 2007, 03:47 PM)
Put David, the PS3 is in demand because they didn't make enough. That means it has to be good.

I like how you used the word "put" there...

Also, you make a good point, but PS3's not the only console having a supply shortage

Resident-Seven - March 17, 2007 07:18 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (DZ @ Mar 17 2007, 02:52 PM)
Maybe the majority but most PC gamers are hardcore to specific genres only, like FPS's and RTS. Its hardcore but its "boring" if you want my opinion. But I'm a console gamer so yeah...

I just meant that we spend far more, to get the most we can out of games.

Random Hero - March 17, 2007 07:47 AM (GMT)
you'd have to be stupid to think that the PS3 will suddenly sell more than the Wii, it'll take time, and Sony to keep putting out show stoppers for them to shake the bad press the built up leading up to the PS3 launch.

ElPresidente - March 18, 2007 12:05 AM (GMT)
Where is my fucking gold star Dave!

GIMME! :P

Stevorooni - March 18, 2007 12:12 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (dave_cool31 @ Mar 17 2007, 03:30 PM)
Conveniently, I was just looking for somewhere to rant about how the PS3 costs $1000 and only includes composite cables.

The "Not everyone has a high def setup" excuse they've been using is pretty pathetic.

Why couldn't they include a component+composite plug like the 360 did?

borgster101 - March 18, 2007 06:45 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stevorooni @ Mar 18 2007, 10:12 AM)
QUOTE (dave_cool31 @ Mar 17 2007, 03:30 PM)
Conveniently, I was just looking for somewhere to rant about how the PS3 costs $1000 and only includes composite cables.

The "Not everyone has a high def setup" excuse they've been using is pretty pathetic.

Especially since non HDTV users wouldnt really be in the demographic for PS3 anyway :P

dave_cool31 - March 18, 2007 10:18 AM (GMT)
yeh I pretty much wouldn't buy a PS3 unless I could also afford a nice TV or monitor - speaking of which, does anyone know if there's going to be a DVI or VGA cable available for PS3 like there is with XBox 360? Also, if there's a DVI cable available, is it HDCP compliant?

Additionally; Elprez, here's your gold star
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D43M0N - March 18, 2007 10:46 AM (GMT)
Me too.

QUOTE ("1Up")
NPD Hardware: February's NPD hardware figures continue to show Nintendo's Wii selling well ahead of the other Gen Now consoles, PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. In February, Nintendo's $249.99 Wii sold 335k units according to the NPD group. Microsoft's Xbox 360 sold 228k units at roughly $389 per system sold across the two SKUs. Sony's PlayStation 3 sold 127k units at roughly $598 per system sold. Despite being available for ages, Sony's PlayStation 2 continues to outsell every home console not named the Nintendo Wii. In February the system sold 295k units at a per unit price of $129.80.

While Sony responded to last month's NPD figures by saying they were closing the gap on the Nintendo DS, they will not be able to say that this month. The then-supply constrained DS is available at retail and the handheld sales figures show that. The DS sold 485k units in February to Sony PSP's 176k units.
Hardware Sales Reactions: Sony: "According to NPD data, February 2007 showed a 67% increase in retail dollars generated year-over-year for SCEA in the US with total sales of $377 million. With this increase, the PlayStation brand remained the number-one revenue driver for the month in the industry owning 38.5% of total sales. On the retail front, SCEA continues to work hard to stabilize supply for PS3 and PS2 across North America. A short month was reflected in PS3 and PSP sales figures over January, while PS2 continues to perform above expectations, down just 4.3% from last year. PS2 dominated software sales for the industry, generating $111 million in revenue.
Coming off the heels of GDC, there is much enthusiasm for upcoming games and services for PS3. With the announcement of 'HOME' and 'LittleBigPlanet' and the recent release of the much-anticipated 'MotorStorm,' consumer enthusiasm for PS3 continues to build. Excitement for PS2 also remains incredibility strong, helped by the release of 'God of War II' earlier this week, which sold-in more than 1 million units at retail. It was also announced recently that the 'God of War' franchise would soon be heading to PSP."
NPD Software: Real Time Worlds' Crackdown led the way in February, despite releasing on the 20th day of the month. Four other Xbox 360 titles charted in the top ten (list below). Top Ten Software for February 2007:
360 Crackdown 427K Wii Play w/ Remote 371K NDS Diddy Kong Racing 262K WII Legend of Zelda: The Twilight Princess 130K PS2 Guitar Hero 2 w/Guitar 130K 360 Gears of War 119K 360 Major League Baseball 2K7 113K 360 Lost Planet: Extreme Condition 111K WII Wario Ware Smooth Moves 109K 360 NBA Street Homecourt 102k
Software Tidbits:
Viva Pinata 18k Hannah Montana DS 30k Resistance: Fall of Man 70k Virtua Fighter 5 53k Sonic Secret of the Rings 83k Rayman Raving Rabbids 60k Red Steel 26k Data courtesy of the NPD Group

- 1UP.com


Hmm. At this rate, the PS3 won't price drop until 2010.

Drake - March 18, 2007 04:20 PM (GMT)
Ive been a reliable Sony fanboy since the PS....

I'm going with the Wii. 360 doesn't offer a lot of games I like and Sony is trying to screw me. For once I won't let them. I like the Wii games and I like the play style. Definetly Wii!

Andy - March 29, 2007 01:16 AM (GMT)
I like my car analogies. I think this fits

PS3 - BMW. Forward looking design, top features that regular joe may not care about. Gives a nice ride. (I say this because BMW have kept their cars up to date and nice looking for years, and the PS3 has the glossy, shiny look that is the current fad on electronic goods like laptops and monitors - the matte finish went out a year ago)

Xbox360 - HSV GTS. Big, brutish beast that was assembled by pouring in the most hardcore parts and then tuning them to suit the chassis. Users will tell you that it's just as good as the more costly foreigner, but costs far less. Truth be known, they are simply more willing to put up with a bit of loud noise for the sheer experience.

Nintendo Wii - Toyota Corolla. "You guys fight it out. I'll just sit here and outsell everyone"

Feel free to debunk the analogy.

Drake - March 29, 2007 04:35 AM (GMT)
That's awesome andy :lol:

The Wii is a novel idea. It's done well, but I fear eventual first party (as in Nintendo themselves) ditching their console, as they did with their previous console, the Gamecube. This is bad. Very. Very. Bad.

The PS3...

... do I need to say anything?

And the 360. This is my idea of a console here. Rather than going with a gimmick that will fade with time or epic failure, the folks at Microsoft did what should happen in next gen: Make the Games Truly Next-Gen. I'm all for controls and what not, but this console has the graphics, the support, and just about everything one needs to get ahead in the console race (not to mention it had a head start of a year.) Even the PS3s games graphics are comparable on the same system. Sure, those are the first generation games, but they had another YEAR to polish these games up and make them look and play well, and the only company that seemed to use their time was Insomniac with Resistence.




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