Title: Moral Kombat
Description: a "balanced" view
Andy - January 5, 2007 12:52 AM (GMT)
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"According to film maker Spencer Halpin – brother of Entertainment Consumers Association’s (ECA) Hal – his new film, Moral Kombat is: “…an inaugural in-depth look at the "interactive entertainment" industry as it elates to the controversial subject of violence in video games – a matter which crosses party lines and empowers over 100 pieces of anti-games and anti-gamer legislation annually.”
The movie, which is currently seeking a distribution deal, apparently took years and millions of dollars to complete - and SPOnG is awaiting its review copy. You can check out a trailer of the film, which claims to use cutting-edge HD and green screen, at the bottom of this story:
The list of people interviewed for the film, which interlaces talking-heads over images of in-game violence would appear to present a balanced vision of the subject. However, the relationship between film-maker and brother does suggest that, unless there’s a whole bunch of fraternal in-fighting, we could be in for a slightly more one-sided ‘debate’. Here’s what Hal Halpin’s ECA says about itself:
” From a political and cultural perspective, these are challenging times for gamers. More than ever before, video games have become a favorite societal "whipping boy" of some elected officials. Since 2005, legislators in California, Minnesota, Illinois, Michigan, Louisiana and Oklahoma have attempted to curtail the rights of gaming consumers to purchase video games. Fortunately, restrictive video game sales laws have so far been struck down by the courts as attacks on free speech.”
The interviewees include:
Joe Lieberman - U.S. politician who does not take bungs from the games industry.
Dr. David Walsh – a PhD psychologist who specialises in the impact of media on children. \ advertisement /
Jack Thompson – U.S. attorney and crusader against violent games.
Dr. Michael Rich – of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) and a supporter of law that would make age-restrictions on games legally enforceable.
Lorne Lanning – OddWorld creator.
Greg Fischbach – founder of Acclaim Entertainment (Burn Out, Turok)
Dean Takahashi – games journalist.
Jeff Griffiths – CEO of U.S. game retailer Electronics Boutique.
John Marmaduke – of U.S. retailer Hastings Entertainment.
Pamela Eakes – Founder Mothers Against Violence in America.
Andy McNamara – Games journalist.
Greg Ballard – former CEO of Capcom.
Bob McKenzie – of U.S. retailer GameStop.
American McGee – games designer (Doom II, Quake.
Hal Halpin – bro’ and also of the Entertainment Consumers Association.
Lt. Col Grossman – Author, West Point psychologist, military historian, and former U.S. Army Ranger.
Phil O'Neil – of Vivendi Universal.
Marie Sylla – counsel for the Interactive Entertainment Merchants Association.
Ed Williams - analyst at Harris Nesbitt in New York.
Richard Ow – Richard Ow, senior video games analyst, The NPD Group.
Dr. Henry Jenkins - professor of comparative media studies at MIT." |
To address why I've bolded that particular part: "Yes, damn those courts for striking down something in order to protect basic human freedoms. And we would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that pesky American Constitution"
Anyway, should be an interesting watch, if only to see how things are perceived by these people.
Maybe Michael Moore will grandstand in K-mart with a victim of a videogame inspired crime, and protest that the place is selling dangerous items to our children.
Decman - January 5, 2007 10:28 AM (GMT)
Sounds interesting. I'd definitely watch it, but I'd probably only be angry by the end of it. That Pamela Eakes and the pox-ridden, llama-licking, chair-humping, dustbin-bonking fool (i.e. Jack Thompson) really, really drive me up the wall.
Angra - January 5, 2007 06:05 PM (GMT)
I'll watch it just for American McGee! I love him!!
Jack Thompson still angers me, but you have to learn to laugh at how utterly ridiculous he is. I've played every violent video game and I've never killed anyone. I also find satisfaction in the fact that his attorney's liscence will be gone soon :dance3:
ElPresidente - January 6, 2007 02:00 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE ("Andy") |
| To address why I've bolded that particular part: "Yes, damn those courts for striking down something in order to protect basic human freedoms. And we would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that pesky American Constitution" |
Errr... you are aware of what those laws were aren't you?
Preventing the sale of violent video games to minors.
You know... those same laws we have in this country which restrict MA15+ games from purchase by teh childrens?
We shouldn't leap to the defence of the games industry in the US all the time folks. 14 year olds should not be able to buy Grand Theft Auto... simple as that. I support the law getting involved and attempting to curtail the excesses that the American Constitution's ridiculous and outdated Bill of Rights has produced in that society.
Robert - January 6, 2007 02:33 AM (GMT)
I heard jack thompson tried to get MK Armagedden banned because people were making custom characters that looked just like him. OLOL :lol:
Andy - January 6, 2007 05:12 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ElPresidente @ Jan 6 2007, 12:00 PM) |
| QUOTE ("Andy") | | To address why I've bolded that particular part: "Yes, damn those courts for striking down something in order to protect basic human freedoms. And we would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that pesky American Constitution" |
Errr... you are aware of what those laws were aren't you?
Preventing the sale of violent video games to minors.
You know... those same laws we have in this country which restrict MA15+ games from purchase by teh childrens?
We shouldn't leap to the defence of the games industry in the US all the time folks. 14 year olds should not be able to buy Grand Theft Auto... simple as that. I support the law getting involved and attempting to curtail the excesses that the American Constitution's ridiculous and outdated Bill of Rights has produced in that society.
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It was more a comment on how it was worded. it made it sound like "freedom of speech" is something that wrong-doers hide behind to peddle their evil wares.
i am in agreeance that games like GTA et al shouldn't be sold to minors, and yes you're right.
however these kinds of movies are usually pushing an answer they've come up with before shooting. Usually. See Outfoxxed, Super Size Me, and Michael Moore's efforts
quartz_donkey - January 6, 2007 06:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (ElPresidente @ Jan 6 2007, 12:00 PM) |
| QUOTE ("Andy") | | To address why I've bolded that particular part: "Yes, damn those courts for striking down something in order to protect basic human freedoms. And we would've gotten away with it too, if it weren't for that pesky American Constitution" |
Errr... you are aware of what those laws were aren't you?
Preventing the sale of violent video games to minors.
You know... those same laws we have in this country which restrict MA15+ games from purchase by teh childrens?
We shouldn't leap to the defence of the games industry in the US all the time folks. 14 year olds should not be able to buy Grand Theft Auto... simple as that. I support the law getting involved and attempting to curtail the excesses that the American Constitution's ridiculous and outdated Bill of Rights has produced in that society.
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Umm yeah but these poeple want the games banned outright or treated like porn. Neither are desirable results I'm sure you agree.
As nearly always education is the answer(I think so anyway). Parents need to know what their children are doing and so must be educated on the ratings system already in place. Parents need to take responsibilty for their own chilren. While I know you can't know what little johnny is up to all the the time and that he might play these games at a friends house or whatever it's just a matter of explaining that what happens in the game is not real and that doing these things in real life would be very bad indeed.
edit: missed a n
Machiavelli - January 6, 2007 06:24 AM (GMT)
No doubt, kids access to games such as Grand Theft Auto should be much more limited than it is right now. However, that trailer was bordering on pure slander and propaganda, so much so it ended up being comical. For me, It's already failed to play its cards right in balancing sensationalism and objective journalism.

Nice. :lol:
borgster101 - January 6, 2007 07:13 AM (GMT)
In Australia anyway games that are rated MA15+ are resrticted to persons aged 15 and over, anyone younger requires parents permission. So the film isnt exactly as relevant for Australia since our ratings system is already legally enforcebale.
However even though it is, one wonders how many stores actually enforce the rules? I remember when my brother bought GTA on Xbox, the EB guy asked him if he was 15 and my brother said yes (he was) but the EB guy didnt ask for ID or anything to verify that. And I'm sure some store employees dont even bother to ask and sell the games to kids who are clearly too young.
Regarding the trailer for the film though, it was a bit much, dramatic music, big words flashed on the screen, its gotta be true right? :P [/sarcasm]
sarunas007 - January 6, 2007 12:04 PM (GMT)
Im not a big mortal combat fan ...
I do prefer GTA :P
Random Hero - January 6, 2007 02:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (sarunas007 @ Jan 6 2007, 10:04 PM) |
Im not a big mortal combat fan ...
I do prefer GTA :P |
Nags - January 9, 2007 04:16 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Robert @ Jan 6 2007, 12:33 PM) |
| I heard jack thompson tried to get MK Armagedden banned because people were making custom characters that looked just like him. OLOL :lol: |
Dude, that character was creepily like him, NOW WITH Legalese fighting stance
On a different note, saurunas what do you think about Crackdown?
Robert - February 5, 2007 03:28 AM (GMT)
So is there a full video of this available now or what? I what to sit, watch and laugh my freaking arse of. Mabye it will be kind of interesting but mabye not!! :lol: