Title: Monitors
Description: Considering the purchase of one
f15active - December 6, 2006 07:24 AM (GMT)
Guys, I was considering the purchase of a monitor which could possibly end up having a combined role of serving my pc and possibly an xbox 360 down the track.
I'm not in the market for a huge lcd in the 1000's price range, so this model I saw just recently tickled my fancy.
linkI've read threads in the past stating that anything above 8 ms for response time is bad, so this one, with a 6ms response time should be great right?
Could anyone tell me if this would be a bad purchase and if so possibly suggest a better value model?
Would I also need a hdtv tuner card?
_MetalliX_ - December 6, 2006 07:29 AM (GMT)
The best monitor to use for consoles and gaming would probably be Estapol's 30" Dell which has av inputs identical to televisions on the back of it. But that is pretty expensive, the one you linked to looks pretty nice.
thebigm - December 6, 2006 07:49 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (_MetalliX_ @ Dec 6 2006, 05:29 PM) |
| The best monitor to use for consoles and gaming would probably be Estapol's 30" Dell which has av inputs identical to televisions on the back of it. But that is pretty expensive, the one you linked to looks pretty nice. |
The 30" Dell doesn't have any inputs (except DVI).
The 24" however does, however some revisions have colour banding problems.
Anything 12ms should be fine for a LCD monitor, and that Samsung looks pretty nice, one I am thinking about picking up as well.
f15active - December 6, 2006 08:36 AM (GMT)
How about connecting a 360 to the monitor? Are there different tuner cards I could buy? Are there cards that allow me to play games in HD?
thebigm - December 6, 2006 09:33 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (f15active @ Dec 6 2006, 06:36 PM) |
| How about connecting a 360 to the monitor? Are there different tuner cards I could buy? Are there cards that allow me to play games in HD? |
You'd be best simply getting the VGA cables for the 360, best quality on most LCDs. If you do decide get the 24" Dell, there's Component Input, which is also good, and you should be able to get 1080P through that (monitor resolution is 1920x1200, so it will either scale, or have a small border around it, your choice).
f15active - December 6, 2006 10:27 AM (GMT)
Alot of the stuff you said just went over my head, I'm noob @ monitors. I'm not interested in buying that Dell monitor. If I were to buy the Samsung one that I posted earlier, how would I best go about getting a 360 hooked up to it?
dave_cool31 - December 6, 2006 10:59 AM (GMT)
this is the cable you'd want to get for hooking the 360 up to the monitor. Just plug the 360 into the D-sub input on the monitor and the PC into a DVI input.
One thing though, my brother has his 360 running through the monitor like that and I tried to play Forza on it today and it said it wasn't compatible with the VGA cable. I think that a lot of old XBox games don't run through monitors - I believe it's only the ones that support 60Hz mode that run through monitors. Just a side point in case you were thinking of playing a lot of XBox games on your 360...
BrotherEstapol - December 6, 2006 12:24 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thebigm @ Dec 6 2006, 05:49 PM) |
| QUOTE (_MetalliX_ @ Dec 6 2006, 05:29 PM) | | The best monitor to use for consoles and gaming would probably be Estapol's 30" Dell which has av inputs identical to televisions on the back of it. But that is pretty expensive, the one you linked to looks pretty nice. |
The 30" Dell doesn't have any inputs (except DVI).
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He means 20.1inch. ;)
And yes, the only bad points about this monitor are that it's 16:10 (@ 1680x1050) and not 16:9(most PC widescreens are 16:10 though, so it's hard to avoid), and that it doesn't have component inputs.
I can attest that it's a really nice monitor though. :)
docturrer - December 22, 2006 12:12 AM (GMT)
did some of u guys know that some of the new plasmas can be used as monitor.
My friend did it in he's house!
BrotherEstapol - December 22, 2006 02:41 AM (GMT)
Um, did you know that ALL plasmas can be used as computer monitors? >_>
docturrer - December 22, 2006 05:57 AM (GMT)
is that true he said only some
if you can comfirm this i will smack him on the head for being a lier!
thebigm - December 22, 2006 07:44 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (docturrer @ Dec 22 2006, 03:57 PM) |
is that true he said only some if you can comfirm this i will smack him on the head for being a lier! |
Every single TV can be used as a computer monitor in one way or another.
Neo.Sanity - December 22, 2006 09:28 AM (GMT)
My two Dell 19" are a pain in the ass when it comes to inputs. The dodgy computer only have one VGA and one DVI output so my primary screen has the DVI used leaving the VGA, whilist the other one doesn't, it's a pain in the ass.
sarunas007 - January 6, 2007 12:12 PM (GMT)
Expensive ones are the best :P ...
Well i wouldnt recomend anything , as you may not like my style , just go to PC world and find a monitor that suits you
Andy - January 8, 2007 04:38 AM (GMT)
alrighty, here's my PC n00bish coming to the fore.
I intend my next PC to be the centre of my home entertainment experience. I would love a 30'' monitor (and the Dells are becoming less expensive by the month).
I know the Dell 24 inchers have had banding issues, but is this the case with the 30 inch models?
I will be purchasing later this year, so they'll probably be a bit cheaper by then, too.
thebigm - January 8, 2007 10:06 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Andy @ Jan 8 2007, 02:38 PM) |
alrighty, here's my PC n00bish coming to the fore.
I intend my next PC to be the centre of my home entertainment experience. I would love a 30'' monitor (and the Dells are becoming less expensive by the month).
I know the Dell 24 inchers have had banding issues, but is this the case with the 30 inch models?
I will be purchasing later this year, so they'll probably be a bit cheaper by then, too. |
I haven't read that they do.
Also with the 30" Dells there will be no input other than DVI/HDMI, (of which it would be dual) and you'll need a beast of a system to power it's native resolution.
Neo.Sanity - January 8, 2007 11:17 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thebigm @ Jan 8 2007, 08:06 PM) |
| QUOTE (Andy @ Jan 8 2007, 02:38 PM) | alrighty, here's my PC n00bish coming to the fore.
I intend my next PC to be the centre of my home entertainment experience. I would love a 30'' monitor (and the Dells are becoming less expensive by the month).
I know the Dell 24 inchers have had banding issues, but is this the case with the 30 inch models?
I will be purchasing later this year, so they'll probably be a bit cheaper by then, too. |
I haven't read that they do.
Also with the 30" Dells there will be no input other than DVI/HDMI, (of which it would be dual) and you'll need a beast of a system to power it's native resolution.
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Or buy a motherboard with HDMI in it.
Both options are good.
thebigm - January 8, 2007 11:46 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Neo.Sanity @ Jan 8 2007, 09:17 PM) |
| QUOTE (thebigm @ Jan 8 2007, 08:06 PM) | | QUOTE (Andy @ Jan 8 2007, 02:38 PM) | alrighty, here's my PC n00bish coming to the fore.
I intend my next PC to be the centre of my home entertainment experience. I would love a 30'' monitor (and the Dells are becoming less expensive by the month).
I know the Dell 24 inchers have had banding issues, but is this the case with the 30 inch models?
I will be purchasing later this year, so they'll probably be a bit cheaper by then, too. |
I haven't read that they do.
Also with the 30" Dells there will be no input other than DVI/HDMI, (of which it would be dual) and you'll need a beast of a system to power it's native resolution.
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Or buy a motherboard with HDMI in it.
Both options are good.
|
No.
HDMI is basically running over DVI, with a few things on top of it. To get the native resolution you will need to run over Dual DVI from the graphics card (I should've made that clearer in my earlier post).
And a motherboard that supports HDMI and is available in the near future :lol:
Andy - January 8, 2007 10:13 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (thebigm @ Jan 8 2007, 08:06 PM) |
I haven't read that they do.
Also with the 30" Dells there will be no input other than DVI/HDMI, (of which it would be dual) and you'll need a beast of a system to power it's native resolution. |
Based upon scouring PCPowerplay forums and the widescreen gaming forums, i'm sure there's been reference to the 2407 having some banding issues (depending on the version ie A01, A02, A03). But... it could be just "bagging for the sake of bagging".
As for monster system... well, that's the plan. :) 8800GTS graphics card (which should have dual DVI, i think). CPU I'm not completely sold on just yet, but it'll be AMD 4200 x2 or higher or a C2D 6600. I'm not an expert but i think that might be enough to run a 30 incher at native res.
quartz_donkey - January 8, 2007 10:36 PM (GMT)
I just think he was making sure you didn't buy the moniter then it didn't work. For exapmle my 6600gt wouldn't be able to run it cause it doesn't have dual link DVI. So only up to 24' for Quartz.
Yeah you should be fine, at the moment Core 2 duos are the way to go but that might change by the time you come around to buying it. Same with the video card there are some who say that the ATI card coming out nest month will blow the 8800GTS away but then again they always say that.
Andy - January 8, 2007 11:09 PM (GMT)
Yeah, i heard about the R600 :) but... it's a month or two behind the G80... so i'd expect it to be better. :)
Zombie Autopilot - January 11, 2007 04:13 AM (GMT)
I can't really recommend anything, but the one you linked to looks as though it will do the trick.
Qubert - January 16, 2007 08:16 AM (GMT)
I recommend dell all the way, there just so slick, nothing but screen if you know what i mean