Title: George W. Bush
Description: What do you think of him?
Ghost Boy - April 25, 2004 02:08 PM (GMT)
Okay, the title really speaks for itself...
What do you think of George W. Bush?
The reason I ask is due to the upcoming election at the end of the year. Even though we can't do much about it, what are your thoughts on the man, his policies and the fact that most untrained yard dogs have more restraint?
I for one am hoping and praying that he, like his father, is a one term wonder. I honestly can't remember the last person to have such a poor impact on the world where there has been little the general public could do about it.
Keep it above board and don't attack anyone if their opinion differs.
DJ-Civic - April 25, 2004 02:14 PM (GMT)
Quite frankly he's a retard. He doesn't seem to know what he's doing and isn't doing a very good job. The only thing he is good at is looking like an idiot on David Letterman's "George W Bush [insert funny thing here]" ;)
Ghost Boy - April 25, 2004 02:32 PM (GMT)
Hehe, yes, I forgot about Letterman's love for Bush.
That reminds me, I really need to try and catch a Letterman in the near future.
I was reading the other day about a clip he did fairly recently that showed Bush giving some speech in Miami. The segment was titled "George Bush speaks to the youth of America". As he's yammering away with his made up words (such as yammering), there is a kid sitting behind him who starts to nod off.
Apparently it was one of the funniest things.
To make things even worse, Dave (being the all round cool guy he is) arranged for the kid to come on the show. :)
~DC - April 25, 2004 02:39 PM (GMT)
I'm not so judgemental to currently the most powerful man in the world. It is quite obvious that the war with Iraq resulted in an absolute diaster on his political front yet the capture of Hussain removed a reign of corruption throughout Iraq and ultimately freed the people from his regime.
Quite frankly I can't think of another US political candidate that would be suitable for the job either.
TrinityJayOne - April 25, 2004 02:49 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gregg @ Apr 26 2004, 12:32 AM) |
| I was reading the other day about a clip he did fairly recently that showed Bush giving some speech in Miami. The segment was titled "George Bush speaks to the youth of America". As he's yammering away with his made up words (such as yammering), there is a kid sitting behind him who starts to nod off. |
I saw that one, it was gold!!

Haha, how could anyone not love the "Geroge W Bush..." segments?! :D
NismoR34 - April 25, 2004 03:01 PM (GMT)
Personally, I dislike him as well. Didn't like him, ever since he was first elected. But my opinion doesn't really count on this subject, as I dislike politics, and don't pay attention to details that I should, in order to form an opinion on the matter. Plus I live in Canberra, so I have a right to hate politics. ;)
craptest - April 25, 2004 03:25 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DJ-Civic @ Apr 26 2004, 12:14 AM) |
| Quite frankly he's a retard. |
Hey! :angry: I know a number of retards (I'm one myself) and he's definatly not part of our group.
I too wouldn't be voting for him if I was a Yank. But don't be surprised if he gets in again.
Gnomey_g - April 25, 2004 03:42 PM (GMT)
I'm not a terribly big fan of Mr Bush ;) He needs to keep his religious beliefs and policies separate, trying to change the constitution to disallow homosexual marriage because of his Christian fundamentalist views isn't on.
On the plus side, he provides Letterman with plenty of fodder :D
pdmaster2023 - April 26, 2004 10:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gnomey_g @ Apr 26 2004, 01:42 AM) |
| I'm not a terribly big fan of Mr Bush ;) He needs to keep his religious beliefs and policies separate, trying to change the constitution to disallow homosexual marriage because of his Christian fundamentalist views isn't on. |
Quoted for emphasis.
The way he changed his motives for going to Iraq annoyed me the most
Links to Al-Queda then Weapons of Mass Destruction and now to Capturing Saddam (which they've actually done now).
We can only hope he is not re-elected, but who's to say the next president will be any different/better?
Buffoon - April 26, 2004 01:35 PM (GMT)
George W Bush is evil, plain and simple. Indeed, I think that the nation of America as a whole is evil. All of America's actions are based on one principle: furthering America's own interests, whatever the costs. In this regard, they are hardly a unique nation. But the power they wield is unique, that's for sure. And you know what they say about power: it corrupts.
The most vexxing thing, though, is the hypocrisy. Here we have a nation that purports to be a benevolent force on the side of God, when they are demonstrably causing a great deal of harm to a great deal of people.
Texta - April 26, 2004 03:44 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (~DC @ Apr 26 2004, 12:39 AM) |
I'm not so judgemental to currently the most powerful man in the world. It is quite obvious that the war with Iraq resulted in an absolute diaster on his political front yet the capture of Hussain removed a reign of corruption throughout Iraq and ultimately freed the people from his regime.
Quite frankly I can't think of another US political candidate that would be suitable for the job either. |
The fact that George W. Bush is the most powerful man in the world makes him, in my opinion, the person who we should be most judgemental of. If Bob at the corner store gives you the wrong change, you let it go. But if GWB stuffs up then a country is plunged into decades of anarchy.
Ghost Boy - April 26, 2004 11:39 PM (GMT)
Buffoon and Texta have elegantly summed up what I pretty much think.
Individually or in small groups I find American's rather enjoyable. As soon as they congregate and patriotism kicks in the ego's come out to play. Don't get me wrong, I think having great pride in your country is a good thing. I also believe in diligence and sticking it constantly down the throat of every other nation on earth isn't the best way to make friends.
As Texta put quite nicely, his mistakes can't just be laughed over and forgotten within the day. When he screws up (and he often does) people die. The War in Iraq has come to be nothing more than a war for power and personal (family) revenge. Like pdmaster illustrated, his reasoning has changed so many times it's not remotely close to 9/11 - where this whole march to war began. I still for the life of me can't find where it suddenly became about Saddam and not Bin Laden.
To quote George W. from an early press conference shortly after he was elected "...[on Saddam] to think I'm just going to ignore him is ridiculous, after all, he tried to kill my daddy." This was something broadcast to over two hundred million people and he's acting like a schoolyard kid who had his lunch stolen. The family agenda was always the endgame.
Lordage - April 27, 2004 05:56 AM (GMT)
Yeah, my thoughts on Bush were also summed up nicely by Buffoon and Texta. The man is, simply put, evil. I suppose all we can do is hope to God the small percentage of US Citizens who vote, vote him out. If not I can see us quickly heading for World War 3 at the hands of this war mongering fool...
Machiavelli - April 27, 2004 07:42 AM (GMT)
I'll say this much:
Bush wins in November: Stomach drops to the floor.
Kerry wins in November: I'll be in a state of bliss for at least 4 years.
pdmaster2023 - April 27, 2004 08:07 AM (GMT)
Do you think America learned its lesson from Iraq? I can't see them going into another country based on the 9/11 cause again.
Sybatical - April 27, 2004 08:10 AM (GMT)
I can sum up what I think about Mr.Bush In 1 sentence:
I neither hate nor like him. :P
~DC - April 27, 2004 08:22 AM (GMT)
I predicted that a majority would dislike his decision making and strategies, would good reason I may add. However to say the man is evil after he lead the country to capturing a true evil man in Hussain and free a country from tryanny is just ridiculous. Sure he had a family agenda, but it was an agenda with a man who had already committed many, many crimes and had corrupted an entire country under his rule.
I can also safety say pdmaster2023 that it wouldn't matter who was President of the United States at the time, if anything happened like 9/11 again they would declare war against the country that was most accountable immediately. Think of the reaction from the American people if nothing was done about it? If anything, more of an upheaval and unrest would occur and it would encourage other terrorists even more to attack.
Texta - April 27, 2004 09:48 AM (GMT)
Going into Iraq because of 9/11 is an excuse. It definitely wasn't the reason (unless US intelligence is really dumb and it clearly isn't).
I don't think that you can justify something like the Iraq war on the basis that it removed one man... were all the Iraqi, American and British lives that have been lost worth less than the reward of removing Saddam by force (especially considering non-violent alternatives had not been exhusted)?
Ghost Boy - April 27, 2004 09:51 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (~DC @ Apr 27 2004, 05:52 PM) |
| I can also safety say pdmaster2023 that it wouldn't matter who was President of the United States at the time, if anything happened like 9/11 again they would declare war against the country that was most accountable immediately. Think of the reaction from the American people if nothing was done about it? If anything, more of an upheaval and unrest would occur and it would encourage other terrorists even more to attack. |
I agree with you there, but I seriously believe it would be done differently. If Kerry was in, for example, I think it would be a little more restrained with him being at Vietnam vet, hence he knows how bad war can be.
America's reaction was to go after those involved (Al Qaeda) in Afganistan. What makes me severly dislike Bush is his blurring of issues that somehow led to Iraq and their attempt to liberate people (by killing thousands). Sometimes war is inevitable, but the way it's handled can make all the difference.
As far as Evil Saddam vs Evil Bush is concerned, I think they are both pretty awful people. I will say this though, Bush was responsible for more deaths in 2003 than probably anyone else on the planet. He's not a good man.
Tr1gger Vandal - April 28, 2004 12:03 AM (GMT)
I don't think that Bush is evil. I just can not believe that America voted such a stupid, stupid, ignorant, bigotted person into presidency.
Bush makes even the average schmo look like Einstein - having him as 'the most powerful person in the world' is just plain dangerous. I don't think he's evil, I think he's just too stupid to understand the consequences of his actions.
I completely agree with texta and Gregg on this. He's basically just a ignorant, stupid man, who has all the wrong motivations, and is too dumb to realise any better.
gaselite - April 28, 2004 07:46 AM (GMT)
ah the obligatory dubyah hate thread :P
The man's an idiot, what can I say? Then again, I don't think Kerry is all that good either. Do you think all the nukes in the world would be greater than those in America? Just wondrin' :P
Texta - April 28, 2004 07:56 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (gaselite @ Apr 28 2004, 05:46 PM) |
| Do you think all the nukes in the world would be greater than those in America? Just wondrin' :P |
Because the world is finite in size you only need a certain number to be able to pretty much destroy ever part of it (or at least the bits with people in them), so I think that the rest of the world probably does have enough nukes to match the US.
RE Bush being evil. He's just not that bright and can't really be held responsible for his actions (to some extent). John Howard on the other hand is clearly not mentally deficient and has no defence.
Comrade Natrak - April 28, 2004 08:08 AM (GMT)
Quite simply George Bush is the anti-christ...
All the facts:
George Bush is the Anti-ChristI mean, just listen to that creepy music for one! You just know he's evil! :P
tinklez - April 28, 2004 10:21 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gregg @ Apr 26 2004, 12:32 AM) |
That reminds me, I really need to try and catch a Letterman in the near future.
I was reading the other day about a clip he did fairly recently that showed Bush giving some speech in Miami. The segment was titled "George Bush speaks to the youth of America". As he's yammering away with his made up words (such as yammering), there is a kid sitting behind him who starts to nod off.
Apparently it was one of the funniest things.
To make things even worse, Dave (being the all round cool guy he is) arranged for the kid to come on the show. :) |

http://www.local6.com/news/2968435/detail.html#
This is a news report regarding the clip Dave aired (it made headlines in the US and the White House apparently tried to spin it), and although the clip I've linked to is of poor quality, you should be able to make it out. I remember when I saw it on Letterman I was on the floor laughing my head off. The kid appeared a few days later on the show and he read out a letter that Bush had sent him. I can't belive you missed it Gregg!
Here's also another classic Letterman/Bush (pre-President) moment. I'll leave it to you to watch and see for youselves. It's reason enough why Bush should not be president!
http://www.bushflash.com/quicktime/george1.mov
-- Edit --
Some sentences didn't make sense; left a few words out. I really ought to read (and re-read) through my posts before hitting the submit button. :P
Almighty Beanchild - April 28, 2004 02:15 PM (GMT)
http://www.bushflash.com/wmf/george.wmv(right-click and save)
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Apparently on a show in 2000 where Bush appeared on David Letterman, Junior just decided to use executive producer Maria Pope's clothes as a tissue.
He's a weird one.
tinklez - April 28, 2004 02:21 PM (GMT)
That was the other clip I linked to -- just the QuickTime version. ;) :P
Almighty Beanchild - April 28, 2004 03:04 PM (GMT)
I knew that >.>
I was just yknow...offering a non-quicktime option. <.<
drewgcn - April 29, 2004 06:19 AM (GMT)
Most people are going to hate me on this one, but I really don't think he's that bad.
I think there's no doubt that he gets way more crap than he deserves though...
Beast - April 29, 2004 10:02 AM (GMT)
I think it's a little silly to call George Bush stupid. Even if he is stupid - he has a number of highly intelligent advisors.
However - George or his advisors - who ever really makes the decisions - have made a number of very bad judgements during (and before) his term as president.
Apart his horrible international policy - I think his chances of getting relected are unlikely due to the economic and social problems he's faced. I also think his blatently religous policies in a country that is meant be secular will not help him.
For the record - The US has approx 10,000 nukes. Russia has approx 20,000. The rest of the world has less then 2,000.
Junker - April 29, 2004 10:23 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Tr1gger Vandal @ Apr 28 2004, 10:03 AM) |
I don't think that Bush is evil. I just can not believe that America voted such a stupid, stupid, ignorant, bigotted person into presidency. |
It's hard for me to blame Americans, mostly due to their voting system, and secondly because whether he made it into the White House legitimately has always been questioned.
He's not been a good president for America. It's ironic that the very reasons America is under attack by terrorists are similar to the principles of the Bush administration. I'm hoping Kerry will win office, but it's kinda getting rid of the devil we know for the devil we don't.
In the aftermath of the war in Iraq and the subsequent protests I think more Americans will be trying to vote him out, and my American sources agree.
Texta - April 30, 2004 05:04 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Beast @ Apr 29 2004, 08:02 PM) |
However - George or his advisors - who ever really makes the decisions - have made a number of very bad judgements during (and before) his term as president. |
Bad is such a subjective word. I'd suggest that Bush has made some judgements that either were bad (were his goal to be the best interests of the American People) or really quite good if he was only looking after the "American elite".
In that light we have a choice between assuming (on any particular issue) GWB is good at heart, but has poor judgement or is evil with good judgement.
DJ-Civic - April 30, 2004 02:35 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (tinklez @ Apr 28 2004, 10:21 AM) |
Here's also another classic Letterman/Bush (pre-President) moment. I'll leave it to you to watch and see for youselves. It's reason enough why Bush should not be president!
http://www.bushflash.com/quicktime/george1.mov |
Buahahaha! :lol: Priceless! I've seen that before on letterman too.
2 other classic Bush moments are when he's waiting to be interviewd and he's blankly staring around while Letterman "speaks" to him. And the other when he's walking and spits out a massive loogie!
Hello - April 30, 2004 10:21 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (drewgcn @ Apr 29 2004, 04:19 PM) |
Most people are going to hate me on this one, but I really don't think he's that bad.
I think there's no doubt that he gets way more crap than he deserves though... |
If I killed thousands of people I'd be locked a way for life. This fool gets a free-run and does not have to answer to the US/international media. He should be getting a lot more shit for what he's done...in my opinion :)
[m]averick - May 6, 2004 10:00 AM (GMT)
For a bit of a laugh go to
google type in weapons of mass destruction and hit the
I'm feeling Lucky button.
On another note the next
Michael Moore film will be released in July in Maerica. With many observers seeing this as a huge stumbling block for the Bush party coming up to re-election
azz230 - May 7, 2004 04:59 AM (GMT)
I hope Bush DROWNS! in a pool of oil.