What do you think of this Occurance. do you think it shouldnt happen. or People can end their lives when they want to. I dont see why its illeagal. IF you do it do they send you a court order? I do think its selfish but.

Of course suicide shouldn't happen. People who are going to die painfully in the near future should be able to choose how they die but everybody else should be prevented from suicide because it's not the best solution to their problems.

i think its your own choice, its selfish yes but its your own responsbility (sp?)

in answer to the question, no it shouldn't happen.

However there are many things which lead to suicide which - if addressed - should alleviate the problem.

Clinical depression being one that springs to mind straight away. Many people don't even realise why they're feeling down either so they don't seek help.

Then there's finanical trouble which... if they had sought financial help instead of believing that people would think less of them due to their poor financial management skills... could be fixed.

Exams... peer troubles.... bullying... if these people were told that everything will be alright even if they don't get the scrores. That people will treat you differently when you get out into the real life outside of highschool (read Matt Stone's contribution to "Bowling for Columbine").

I think I've said far too much now.

But if this is a discussion about euthanasia, i think i'll stay out.

wtf? Will the aliens get you?

because i was getting preachy, and was sounding like some know-it-all when I'm not.

no one likes to read an essay either.

Besides, the aliens have no quarrel with me.

i don't get how you can make it illegal to kill yourself. it truly sickens me to see the world control people like that.

You're a n00b. The aim of the law is to do what is in the best interests of society. Society is made up of people. Laws that stop people from dieing stop parts of society from dieing. Clearly it is not in the best interests of society for parts of society to die. While it could be argued that certain society as a whole would be better off if particular people were killed (lawyers for example), it's important to realise that everybody make up society - even anti social people - and no matter what the benifits of killing somebody, you are still, by definition, damaging society. In the case of suicide, it's really very clear that it is not in the best interests of society to allow depressed or mentally ill people to kill themselves. It's also important to understand that people who are stopped from killing themselves are not punished for their actions but that the laws allow police officers to go onto people's property and to physically stop people from killing themselves.

How can you prevent suicide?
If its going to happen you can not stop it, and once your dead you cant get arrested for it, i dont agree with taking there own lives but its up to them

You really cant prevent it if that certain somebody 100% wants to do it, theres no way in hell.

Well, I think suicide is preventable, at least some of the time.
Really knowing people, you will notice when they act unusual. They may make jokes or subtle hints about what's going on. As a friend you should notice these, and if necessary, talk to the person about what's going on.

It is preventable. I'm still here.

I'm not saying they are all preventable, but at least some.

If someone truly wants to die, they will no if's, and's, or but's. But to give them a court order is rather pointless as they may try once again to end their lives.

What i think is you should not commit suiside ok :) . Life is worth living don't throw it away

Suicide shouldn't happen. I mean it shouldn't be illegal or legal or anything like that because once you're dead it doesn't matter. Its just an occurence that happens when people can't get the help they need...

while it's treated as a weak act in general here, a lot of asian cultures consider it an act of honor, redemption, whatever.

That doesn't make it right. :P

One of the things that would stop me from committing suicide is the thought that some poor bastard would have to find my body and probably be traumatised for life. Especially if it was a family member.

I just wouldn't be able to do that to someone.

It was honourable centuries ago... i don't believe it is considered that way today.

japanese traditional ritual suicide, from what i've read, was a sign of ultimate faith to your ruler, and the trickle down benefit was that your family name was revered due to your ultimate sacrifice. It was sometimes even ordered by the ruler. Othertimes, it was simply a preferable option over being captured by the enemy and tortured.

Also... the main honourable one involved another samurai on hand to lop your head off...

I think that suicide rates in Japan today are being linked to the extraordinary pressure students have to succeed.

Suicide, as it is perceived here, is an escape from something overwhelming. Volunteering to end your own perceived pain. It's not seen as a sacrifice for the sake of your family and for your allegiance. It's seen as giving up.

Andy's right. Seppuku (or hara-kiri, literally 'stomach cutting') was a form of ritual suicide back in feudal Japan (though I think there was an occurence of someone doing it a few years back, but apparently it didn't go to well :P).

Seppuku involved the samurai taking his shorter sword, the wazikashi, and stabbing his own belly, slicing across, sometimes rather gruesomely spilling his own entrails. Apparently there was a very precise way of doing it which involved some precise cuts, but meh. :ph43r:

Seppuku was pretty common back then. If a samurai stepped out of place, he would have to commit seppuku; if a samurai offended someone of higher standing, he would have have to commit seppuku, and so on. A pretty grim form of justice either way, and there was no way of turning it down. If you did, you and your entire family would be shamed, and they would all be killed (women and children including), and your death would be far more prolonged and definitely more painful.

Seppuku was also highly ritualised to. The samurai would be dressed in white, and he would often write his own 'death-poem' which he would read aloud to the assembled spectators. There was often someone acting as a 'second' who would be there to cut off the samurai's head with a katana if he cried out, as that would be shameful.:unsure:

Seppuku might also occur on the battlefield, and that would obviously not be particurly formal: more of a few hasty slices than a party. Being captured would be extremely dishonourable, and if a samurai was taken by his enemy, he would endure all manners of horrendous torture and still not utter a word.

Oftentimes, you got a few bizarre Buddhist ninja cults who would all commit seppuku after an assassination. Women did it too, but instead, they slit their throats. Lovely. :ph43r:

To a Japanese person living back then, seppuku was a great honour, samurai or not. Of course, nobody looked to cut themselves open, but it really wasn't much of a big deal to them if they were asked to.

People who commit suicide have to have a reason.

No one really cares if some random guy kills himself. It's only bull when he does the whole "take others down with me" bit.