How on earth is this guy a mod? In all honesty, are they chosen on intelligence or by how out of touch with reality they are?

Let's make this clear. This guy, I dont even know who he is, but he has the stupidest name I've ever seen in my life, likened Mav's post to murdering someone. In an effort to make the example appear less stupid, he went to the effort of making sure both men or women could be represented. This failed. He actually likened knowledge that murder was bad, with knowledge of obscure technical language. He then told Mav, Maverick, to swallow a warning. Does he even know who populates this forum? How well is Maverick, going on past posting, going to take an order like that? What an inflammatory and stupid post.

In conclusion, feel free to have Fyuusuusiusuusi banned.
With love,
Mykle.

PS. Pour vous, Stevodoria,
Sexually yours,
Mykle.

Can you edit that post so it says who wrote each quote?

I am far too lazy to hunt down the original posts and figure it out myself.


Breathtakingly yours,
Stevo.

I'll let someone else close this to prevent a conflict of interest.

Seriously, do you guys need a public flogging session to spur discussion here? This is just a sad attitude to take. You don't have to like me or anyone else here, but you're clutching at straws to ridicule & in hindsight, it's just as childish as you're trying to make me out to be.

Mykle, please give it a rest.

I'm highlighting what I see as a major problem in the running of Evolution - there's some deep problems here, everyone sees them, and posts like that (where you attempt to justify what was a ridiculous warning of Mav and then attack on Manny), simple accentuate the problems.

Looking back, you must admit a post like that from a Mod, one which is ridiculously extreme, unhelpful and inflammatory, should not have been posted.

I'd disagree, you're mostly complaining about...

- My name.

- My use of technical terms (I can only see one or two words there that might confuse most people).

- My train of thought (logic).

- Extreme analogies, to which I already admitted were extreme; I'm totally lost on that one.

- Enforcing boundries.

It's my firm belief that a moderator should not lose his soul to his job. My demeanor can come off as a little snide or petty at the worst of times, but I'd like to think I'm far from extreme, unhelpful and inflammatory.

The only thing I'm willing to admit might have been done wrong is in that ancient case [M]averick has taken such a hearty grudge against me for, it probably should have been someone else handing out the warning, to avoid a conflict of interest. That said, it's not a given mistake, but feedback was given and listened to.

Stop trying to downplay it Fusion Cloud. You're clearly an idiot and no matter how many times you gloss over it and get into us for exaggerating this, it still doesn't take away from said fact.

I'm sick of self-righteous mods waffle on about how the lowly members must be stupid for speaking out against the crapulance of the heirachy. You constantly downplay your own failings and make us out to be whingers. For simply having a blue sticker under your name does not command any respect from me, and clearly from few else.

You regulary fuck up and here's the latest example of a moderator acting like a prat. If you fuck up and came across as an egg, cop it.

Why close it? You afraid that you might have your Moderator status on some anonymous forum with 335 members taken away from you, you poor little darling?

Admitting an example is stupid doesnt mean you're allowed to use it.

I agree with you, a moderator shouldnt 'lose his soul'. However, a forum such as this has differing personalities and therefore, you should adjust how you deal with people, for the sake of doing your damn job. If you come off as snide, then you should tone down the arrogance when dealing with someone who is not likely to respond favourably to it, like [m]av.

I, for one, am sick of your petty little jabs at the way Hyper is run, despite the fact you're obviously unable to maintain this forum judging by the responses you've recieved in this very thread!

Please take your feeble squabbles elsewhere. Mykle, if you wanted your opinion to hold any credit at all, you would have either PM'ed a moderator or created it in the Feedback area where it would have been viewed by the moderating team or members who have a genuine interest in the wellbeing of this forum.

As you have presented it, this topic is nothing but a selfish tantrum at a member who I am quite indifferent towards. There is no need for this, and it certainly does not deserve its own thread.

I don't understand how a mod can not post for weeks/months, and then still be able to warn one of the more frequent users. My mind boggles. Next thing TrinityJayOne will be banning ev0.

In spite of the fact the argument he's complaining about was not between himself and Fusi?

I think the fact that my opinion is almost universally shared, suggests that this is indeed a relevant and urgent topic which needs to be discussed. Hardly a 'feeble squabble'.

Oh dear.

Fusion, it's that exact behaviour that made myself and Natrak step down from 'the team'. You dissapeared for months, then came back with an iron fist... up your arse.

'nuff said kiddo.

***EDIT***

Didn't see this, and I feel the NEED to respond.

Had your ignorant little arse ever visited feedback, you'd understand my thoughts and actions regarding the rep system... but that's hardly the cause of 'forum chaos!!!'.

One thought though, you don't like Hyper, don't visit it, you dipshit. Heck, i'll just go ahead and ban you now, what do you reckon? Actually, doing that would only bring me down to your level.

Don't think you've got the authority to comment on what i'm trying to do to Hyper, when all you do is visit this measly little place every 4 months, and spend that time abusing the only regular members this place has.

It is a feeble squabble, this is not Hyper, this is the Evolution forums. The duties of our moderators are not as tedious as those at Hyper, we have alot less rubbish which needs to be locked, edited or deleted. This selfish thread is only creating garbage. If you want to site a personal opinion about another member, do it through the right medium, message an adminerator, or present it to your peers in the Feedback forum, where it will be taken in the correct light, unlike in here where it is nothing but a public showcase, or more accurately a public flogging of a member based around a personal opinion - which justifies my description of this as selfish.

Whether he deserves his position as moderator is not the issue, the fact you decided to create a thread based solely around outcasting and attacking a single member is simply selfish and pitiful.

Almost universally shared? Honestly who do you think you are? Half the members of the forum wouldn't even care to take a second glance at this issue, I wouldn't have even bothered replying if it wasn't for the unfair way in which this matter was being treated.

Get off your soap box.

Yet despite this apparent selfish vendetta and witchhunt I'm conducting, people agree with the sentiments I expressed! The undeniable fact is, Fyususu's behaviour has been out of line, as stated by a large portion of this forum, and I'm highlighting it to him. I'm making it clear that he cant treat users like dirt because he's a moderator. He has to be accountable for his actions and his 'snide nature', and that begins here.

This had to be posted in a public forum, so I could gather support and prove to Fyuusi that this is not my personal opinion, rather an opinion which is commonly expressed on these boards.

Which could be seen as you rallying a group of selfish witchhunters behind you, but I digress.

I had a long-winded defense planned, but I'll just cite that I think Metallix is the wisest person here; not because he might be seen as defending me, but because he has foresight.

Chances are I may end up stepping down anyway, but not for the reasons many of you would have liked.

Many user's behaviour on this forum has been less than perfect, but there is nothing which could justify singling out a user in an entire thread. You are not highlighting it to him, you are highlighting it to the entire demographic of this forum in a one-sided manner. Any reply made by Fyuusi would simply be shot down with insults rather than intelligent responses, just read some of the replies which have already been posted. This really is a cowardly means of getting what you want.

I will only say it once more, if you really meant this in a constructive way, it would have been posted in the Feedback board where it would have been discussed intelligently by members who have an interest in the well being of this forum. I do admit, your replies and yours alone Mykle have been fair and intelligent, I'm sure if you had done the same in private which the adminerators a quiet resolution could have been reached.

For the record, Moderators on this forum are no different to normal users as they rarely need to use there powers. As a matter of fact the only time they do tend to use their tools are to create posts and ideas to better the forum, such as forum competitions and the patented universal thread.

It is for this reason I actually turned down the offer to be Xbox moderator by Gregg a while back, a position which then defaulted to Comrade. I didn't feel I actually needed the mod powers to contribute successfully on the boards, and there was no need for 'policeing' by the mods, just as there is little need now.

This will be my last post in this thread, I feel I have said everything I needed to say, if you all had any dignity you would follow suit and allow this matter to be handled in private by Mykle.

Is it because you don't have the time to regularly contribute here as a mod?

THAT WAS SARCASM!

I respect what you're saying Metallix, and perhaps this would've been more effective had it been dealt with privately. Having said that, if two mods quit over Fyuusi's actions and nothing happened, then what it a PM from me going to do? This needed to be public, because it's obvious nothing would be done privately.

Actually, they quit over Machiavelii's actions and they decided to plant me in his 'camp' when I stated several times I was taking no sides on the matter.

Or, so was my understanding.

Moved to feekback.


Now, I completely agree with MetalliX, while there's nothing exactally wrong with your posts here Mykle(most are ligitimate complaints), though you shouldn't have made a thread dedicated to "shooting-down" Fusion Cloud.

That question right there, that's directed at the Evo staff isn't it?
Then why did you post it in Off Topic rather then PMing members of the Staff? Making this public won't get your opinion over faster. In fact, doing so in such a vindictive way hinders the message, cause just looks like you are having a whinge, instead of voicing a legitimate complaint.

Universally shared?

I'm sorry, but the only other members that (from memory) have voiced complains about our managment here, are Moggo/Lynx and [m]averick....and lets be honest, they post here enough to have the right to complain.

Yes, I understand that it's a similar case with FC, but imho, I seems a tad hypocritical on your part Mykle...sure you post here more than FC, but it just seems like you dont' post for a a while, then you come back and start complaining about our forum and how crap it is.

BTW, Natrak and Manny quit because they Dissagreed with Mach and FC, along with the fact that Manny didn't have as much time to moderate as he used to(dude to work at a higher workload at Hyper), and Natrak was just not liking the whole forum thing much anymore.(you could say he lost his forum mojo :P)

If I remember correctly, they were both considering resigning beforehand anyway, and the whole Mach incident was the last straw.
(Manny, Natrak; feel free to correct me! :P)


EDIT: Oh and Beast also complained(though I think he was tring to help :P) as well.

I think the fact that my warning actually went up to 80% today is a sign that I should maybe just shut the fuck up.

We "placed" you in Mach's "camp" due to your approach to the situation generally falling more in line with the kind of approach Mach was employing, intention to take sides or not.

To pre-empt your attack, Fyuussii, I have no vendetta. I just think you are a douche.

You think he's a shower?? WTF!

This was brought up at the start of the year, in markymark's thread, and nothing happened, so I think that this is a valid way of making a point.

Woah, woah, hold the phone. Manny and Natrak resigned?

It keeps getting brought up, and the mods keep telling us that there is nothing wrong and that the mod team does not need to represent the people, as long as they get the job done. But they fail to realise that the two are interlinked. This thread will accomplish about us much as the other three has on the inadequate mods. Dick all. Infact I wouldn't be surprised if this thread causes the last couple of good mods to stand down, ala Natrak and Manny in the last thread.

Jawsy, get with the times!

:P

We left the team a few months back.

Mykle you're a moron, shut your stupid fucking mouth. Same goes for Maverick, and Moggo as well (although to a lesser extent with Moggo, I don't think you're stupid. If only you'd use your powers for good instead of evil). Seriously Mykle, have a fucking cry! The only "argument" you seem to sustain is that you dislike Fyuusii's name. WHOOP-DEE-FUCKING-DOO. I'm sure I've explained this before, but I'll do it again very simply, so that you can comprehend it with your shoe-size figure IQ- FusionCloud was his original username, which got shortened by most people to Fusion (like mine was shortened to Trinity), then further shortened to Fusi (again, like mine was shortened to Trin). For whatever reason that has no importance to the discussion at all, Fusi changed his nickname to the pronounciation of "Fusi", which is "Fyuusii". If you really think that's so wrong, why is your own name essentially the same thing? (Michael -> Mykle)

Re Hello: I haven't been an Admin here for months. ;)

This is going to get interesting.

You think?

Unfortunately we have a couple of members who apply their own brand of moderation, those involved will decide that what someone says is nonsense, then act to discredit this member by criticising them until they either admit they were wrong or end up leaving completely. They are, in most cases, simply ingrates and disloyal.

I cannot believe we've put up with this for as long as we have, a group of users demonizing a small, tight nit community for the thrill of inciting flames, and causing friction wherever they can. They want a warzone. It is truly absurd.

Moggo is back...again, perfect timing for another reckless, illogical "uprising". What a surprise, it's three or four egomaniacs stirring the pot for the sake of stirring the pot. Such members cannot be reasoned with, or argued with. They will spend hours crafting retorts and only listen to each other. Incase you guys don't know, i'm sure you do, but you may aswell skim over it for the uptenth time yet again. Mabye this time it will register.

I refuse to conduct discussions of this nature in our public forum. It will only be discussed as a PM. Any thread started to continue the argument in public will be closed.

I'd just like to add if anybody has a problem with myself and the decisions I'm making (or any other Mods for that matter) please use the PM like Mach mentioned to address the issue. Trust me, any PMs I recieve will not be ignored.

Cheers.