Ladies and Gentlemen, it is time for action.

Evolution is dead. It's hard to admit it, but we need to face the facts. It's rarely posted in, it has an active userbase of about 7 people and it's becoming a joke over at Hyperactive.

Hyper itself is descending into a spam fest of unfunny gags and reputation begging. It needs some senior members to liven up real discussion about games and general issues.

What I suggest is simple. The people who played a part in the exodus (agressors or otherwise) were mainly Adzy and Gregg, both of whom have gone. So how's about we all patch things up. Evo members head to Hyper and try to give it some legitimacy. Moggo, make another hidden account or something and join in too.

It's time to put aside petty rivalries and face facts.

Overly dramatically,

Mykle.

I don't like the new Hyperactive. It has an old, unlovable look to it. I also hate the layout. Why don't you ask some membersto head over here?

I'm with DZ on that one, I really can't stand the new Hyper.

I agree.

If you don't like this place, or the way it's run. Go back to hyper.

You should have used a , and not a .. Good one Fretz :P.

I don't want to leave. I've never been to Hyper and i don't like the way it sounds.
A smallish community with some awesome people is better than a huge community with a lot of fucktards and 10 y/o's who think they can smash anyone as long as they are hiding behind their computer.

Yes, I agree this place is dead but I don't really care about Hyper to much so I wouldn't worry about it.

I would rather see this place get more action on the other hand, instead of the same three topics being posted in all the time.

You've obviously heard wrong or made some random assumption.

I visit both forums, and much prefer Hyperactive. More entertaining, and better discussion. Besides, it really doesn't look that bad once you get used to it. :P

Key words. I don't like change :cheese:

I'm definitely going to try and put in a bit more effort to liven this place up over the next week. Your points certainly haven't been ignored Mykle, it is dead obvious something major needs to be done, and fast, if this place is going to survive and remain worthwhile to visit regularly.

I guess the best way to gain more activity on the forums would be to merge with another gaming forum. Thing is, a lot of you guys seem to like the small member base and wouldn't care for an inlfux of new, possibly younger members. It is definitely a question that you guys are going to have to answer before anything is done. More new topics definitely need to be created and everyone can do their bit in that area, but I think the key to making these forums more exciting and fun to visit is getting more members visiting.

Also Moggo already has created a new account [Lynx] and he now posts under occassionally under that alias.

Well I got meself banned at HYPER so I don't think it would be best for the forums to unbranch.

Also I am used to the quiet here, and there is so much spam over at HYPER that it is hard to get your point through.

Yeah, I banned myself at Hyper recently to focus on the HSC, but I didn't bother getting a ban here because I can surf this forum in about ten minutes flat due to lack of posts.

One thing I've noticed is that this forum isn't as easy to "sit" on as it is over at Hyper. When I was posting at Hyper, I'd just waste hours upon hours on Hyper. No problems with that here.

I just pop in once every day or two, maybe every three days and have a quick skim, then leave after 15 minutes.

EDIT: Anyone else find the merger of the consoles into one forum has piked terribly? For some reason I never go in there anymore. Seems too cluttered.

I find that it is pretty cluttered...

I agree that Evo has gotten pretty darn quiet, even so much so that I resort to returning to Hyper occasionally, unfortunately the second I am there I have to wade through knee-deep spam with topics like, "Dancers are more manly than footballers" the conversation is just way too dumb, it really is now just a gathering of losers trying to get the highest post count for some non-existant prize.

The only way I would even consider returning would be that the post counts were no longer displayed, this would iron out all the riff-raff there for all their little +1's.

And I think that pretty much goes for everyone. I keep hearing the same excuses "Hyperactive looks ugly, Hyperactive has so many n00bs who only care about rep or postcount, Hyperactive is a cesspool of spam, Hyperactive is too big," Not only from here, but DM as well (which is quite possibly the most redundant forum ever).

You guys can keep telling yourselves that, but the fact remains that there is a lot more discussion going on at Hyperactive then here. As far as discussion boards go, that's a fairly big fact.

Talk about dramatisation. Topics aren't like popup ads, dude. When you open off topic you are not assaulted by topics that don't interest you. They sit there, and you open them, then regret opening them and then complain about it. What should you care if other people post and spam in these topics like crazy? Aren't we all the pious group who don't care about postcounts?

That's just a blatant, baseless generalisation. You can't say any forum goes without its saints and arseholes.

I frequent both Palgn (not muchmore active than Evo) as well as Hyperactive. You guys are more than likely familiar with Palgn, since you link to many news articles from their main site. If ever there were a place to merge with that would be my recommendation (considering the convenient infatuation with the PHPbb visual style over Hyperactive's Vbulletin).

Indeed the best two places to merge forums would have to be PALGN and Evo.

This place isn't that bad compared to VCGN though, which was once popular back in the day, only now to be dry of posts.

Yeah, that has already been put up for suggestion more than once. Now may be the right time to do it though, given the new low as far as activity on the forums is concerned.

Also, try keep the Hyper bashing to a minimum guys. We want ways and ideas to increase activity on these forums and not about whether Hyper's new design is good or bad.

I don't consider them like pop-up ads, more like spam emails. You get them sent to you, you don't want them, and you delete them with out even giving them a second glance. Only problem is I can't delete the crap which builds up over there. I don't particularly want to sift through the good and bad topics when I can just stay here and get some interesting and involving topics.

It was so bad we made another forum. Enough said right there.

The forum has gone to the dogs along with the magazine. I was sick of reading through every article and hearing some pathetic in-joke. You really have to let go and move on man. Now that I can't visit the net as often, I quite like Evo's quiet little community, I can always catch-up on topics quite quickly and take my time writing quite a long reply knowing it will be read and replied to intelligently. Last time I tried to say something intelligent at Hyper I got shut down with an absolute flurry of +1's and haven't returned to post since.

I'm bored with Hyperactive and this place. But it'd be good to see promintent 'old guard' type members make more regular appearances over at Hyperactive.

Last time I checked there wasn't really a major rift between Evo and Hyperactive, though, it was just that most had grown tired of the place.

I say these things because I dont like what's happening to either forum, to be honest. Look at the '60 Years On' topic at Hyper. Very legitimate, but instead guys like Dekar take over and post unfunny gag after gag. Here, you'd get awesome replies but only over 1 week.

I think combining would end problems like that.

I aven't been to either Hyper or Evo recently because I'm either actually doing some work, or playing RO ^_^

IMHO, us coming back wouldn't stop Dekar posting like a twat, nor anyone for that matter.

What are you on about hello?

However it would help the Quality Poster to Twat ratio. :P

Some call it spam, others call it humour. Evo is droll, however you might love it due to it's "intellectual debate"

Your post count comment is rather ill-conceived as well. I know that I never once bothered to spam to see my post count rise by one. Often I would post one line, one word responses back in the day, but it never was to raise my post count.

If you removed post counts at Hyper, and I started posting there again, I can tell you I would spam even more because no one would be able to see my post count.

Quiet or dead? Retro hasn't been posted in since May 29. Draw from that what you will.

The way I see it, I've got friends at Hyperactive, and friends here. I visit both forums because I like to see what they say whether it be about a game or whatever. Now theres a few people here that I've noticed don't post at hyperactive who used to do so, and if those particular people are annoyed that theres a lack of active members here then thats an issue for those individuals.

I've butted heads with people at hyperactive and got the shits, thought about leaving, but really the forums give me a method of discussion that I do enjoy, and I come to accept that some people are not going to change, and I can ignore them, take it with humor, or even hate them (but get over it).

I don't know if this is something that shouldn't be discussed or whatever, but the advantage of having 2 message boards is that if one shuts down the discussion can be moved to the other board. I know a few people who haven't posted here in ages but if hyper was down for a week they'd definately show up.
Now the admin and mods may not like to think of this forum as a "back up" for when hyperactive goes down, but the rules and design here clearly are different to hyperactive, and for that you should be proud. I'm not aware of anyone (except for evo maybe?) who posts here who did not at one time post at hyperactive, so its inevitable that this forum be looked at as a derivative of hyperactive, even if it isn't.

Just to make my point crystal clear, if you want new members you have to accept that you're not going to like everyone. And if you like posting at palgn or hyperactive (or ohn or AUxboxfourms...>_>) or wherever, then go ahead and do so. This is all really the same group of people, its Australian gamers. The only thing that really separates the forums is the rules and cosmetics.

The retro thread deals with past gaming, its history, there isn't going to exactly be any new info posted in there. I have never at Hyper nor here at Evo posted in the Retro threads anyway. Personally I fail to see the point of the Retro thread, but obviously others do.

Having the veteran members return isn't going to change a thing, especially with the newer members who have no idea who we are. I doubt merely our presence will change things. Perhaps if we were given the powers to influence the forum in small ways, such as editing posts or locking topics etc, then progress could happen, until then I am quite happy here.

Not all discussion has to be news :rolleyes:

Well the funny thing is that the rivalry between the forums seems to never disappear over there. We don't post topics or discuss about Hyper things, yet they seem to still take swings at us. Why, I ask you?

I know things are slow, as is the case in other forums and it's something that can't be fixed overnight. I mean we can start new topics or new comps, but they only stay active for a few days, which is a shame.
I still prefer it here as some of you pointed out, it's quieter and I like that.

Why do they take swings at you?

You left Hyper and hand-picked members to join you. Most of them are back at Hyper, or gone. The experiment/endeavour/whatever it is has failed, quite simply, and I think it's time you put it behind you and go back to revive Hyper. Like I said, Gregg and Adzy are gone now, so surely the resentment will have diminished.

That's your opinion(not fact), and judging by some of the posts in this thread, not everyone shares it.

There's a fine line between quiet and dead and I wouldn't say that we are dead just yet.

It's only been in the last few weeks or so that posting activity here has sevierly sunk, and (I think hello mentioned this in another thread) it was quite active just before the slump, so I can't say that cause of 1 bad month we should shut-down shop and move onto "greener" pastures.

Yeah, I was never 100% on that move, and I'm still on the fence as to if it was a good move or not...but the option to make it 3 forums instead of 1 is still there if want to change it back.

Though the general concensus seems to be that it was a good move, and considering the lack of activity latey, I can see why.

But yeah, like I said, if the people want 3 forums instead of 1, we'll be quite happy to change it back. :)

Exactally.

Personally, I think it would be better to get some of the good posters from Hyper's large community to post here, instead of getting the good posters from this small community to post there.

Even if we did go there, I can't see it making much of a difference, yet if more people came here for a change, I think it would make a difference.

Did you ever think about that?


note: please ingnore any spelling/grammar mistakes, it's like 3 in the morning...I'll fix em tommorow

Plus, you should be used to ignoring Estapol's mistakes by now. :P

Cool. I was just about to PM you about doing that :D

I don't mind the level of activity here. If you post something, you'll get a reply (in the most part). Still, I post more at hyper, because there's more threads and I can post spammy bull shit and nobody really cares.

1. Can you honestly tell me Evolution has been a success? I think you tried something new with it, 0% spamming, setting guidelines for jokes (something about jokes over 1 line? NICE) all that stuff, and you learnt a valuable lesson. Spam = Life.

2. This may be a bad month, but that fact is the majority of people who could make it a good month have returned to Hyper. Hence, will you have any more good months?

Yes, it mightn't make a difference. But if the mods got on board, it would be easily possible. Also, how many Hyper members would turn their back on the place to post here. If they would, I imagine they'd keep the place as boring as it is now.

I see two weak forums. One too spammy, one too boring. Does a solution jump out?

You know what... maybe we should all just go outside? :unsure:

Ding Ding Ding!

And Metallix wins the superbowl.

Seriously, he's got a point. Come here, go there, whatever.

Get back to studying for your HSC saf, and let the people with nothing else going for them to ponder this useless shit.

For the four statements above, I'm offering an answer for each. However, your task is to sort out which answer is for which statement.

- Dong Dong Dong

- I shall accept this.

- Make me!

- I have no response.

WHICH IS WHICH

If you wanted us to guess, then perhaps you shouldn't have put them in order. ;)

Yes.
I enjoying posting here as do others, and I just because our Off Topic isn't full of random spammy threads, doesn't mean that we should shut-up shop. :rolleyes:

Turn their backs? I never said anyone should LEAVE Hyper to post here, simply that they(like most users here) just post at both forums.
Is that so hard to do?

Again, you think it's dead, but others think it's just quiet.
There's nothing wrong with quite.


Anyways, Manny and Metallix make excelent points; it's just a forum. :P

Incorrect. Please try another combination.

Ding Ding Ding!
- Dong Dong Dong

Get back to studying for your HSC saf, and let the people with nothing else going for them to ponder this useless shit.
- I shall accept this.

Seriously, he's got a point. Come here, go there, whatever.
- Make me!

And Metallix wins the superbowl.
- I have no response.


Either that or swap the Ding answer with the superbowl one. :/

2 are correct.

2 are incorrect.

Ok, swap the middle two around.