Title: London Bombings
Ali G - July 7, 2005 11:26 AM (GMT)
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200507/s1409463.htmCurrently most people are saying either the Olympics or the G8 Summit as reasons, but really, it's a bit early to say anything. What do you guys think?
borgster101 - July 7, 2005 11:31 AM (GMT)
The Olympics was the first thing that came to my mind, probably because of the news last night and this morning regarding the victory for London, but whether there is actually a connection well too early to say, and such a connection is unlikely.
It was awfully ironic though that just this morning I was hearing news on London in a much lighter note, talk about two ends of the extreme :argh: .
Comrade Natrak - July 7, 2005 11:32 AM (GMT)
I don't think the Olympics have anything to do with it, particularly since the announcement just came yesterday. That's an awful short amount of time to co-ordinate at least 6 blasts.
I think it's quite clear that the attacks are focused upon the G8 Summit.
Gio - July 7, 2005 11:34 AM (GMT)
What is the G8 Summit, may I ask? =/
f15active - July 7, 2005 11:54 AM (GMT)
Hmmm, so they bombed the train stations, and the busses. From I've read, alot of people were diverted from the train network to catching buses after the initial bombings, I'm not sure what order the bombings occured, but I would suspect they bombed the train stations, then the buses while they were packed.
Sad news I must say. :(
~DC - July 7, 2005 12:26 PM (GMT)
I thought only one bus was targetted...
Ali G - July 7, 2005 12:37 PM (GMT)
What about the IRA? They've been on ceasefire since 1997, but they still have plenty of reason.
Loach - July 7, 2005 01:00 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (f15active @ Jul 7 2005, 09:54 PM) |
Hmmm, so they bombed the train stations, and the busses. From I've read, alot of people were diverted from the train network to catching buses after the initial bombings, I'm not sure what order the bombings occured, but I would suspect they bombed the train stations, then the buses while they were packed.
Sad news I must say. :( |
Yeah that seems to be it. I couldn't get into the tube so was about to get on a bus until I found out that bus/es were bombed. Then I gave up and went home.
Hello - July 7, 2005 01:56 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gio @ Jul 7 2005, 10:34 PM) |
| What is the G8 Summit, may I ask? =/ |
Scotland.
Edit - Sorry, I thought you asked where it was.
Um, very basically, the G8 is a get together of some world leaders to discuss major issues, these being; global warming and the situation in Africa.
ultracrazy1 - July 7, 2005 01:59 PM (GMT)
Good to see you're ok Loach.
Stevorooni - July 7, 2005 09:40 PM (GMT)
It's probably a combination of the G8, Olympics, and England's involvement in Iraq.
Although I don't see how innocent people catching public transport are responsible for any of those things...
borgster101 - July 8, 2005 02:16 AM (GMT)
That's the thing whatever the reason G8 Summit, Olympics, Iraq whatever, such attacks don't really do anything except kill and hurt innocent people, *sigh* this is the world we live in :(
[m]averick - July 8, 2005 10:32 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Gio @ Jul 7 2005, 09:34 PM) |
| What is the G8 Summit, may I ask? =/ |
This isn't a criticism or anything, but what exactly did you think Live8 was all about?
Sytadel - July 8, 2005 10:35 AM (GMT)
They're tying it to Al Qaeda now, who apparently stuck their hand up and admitted to it. Kinda surprising since London has a high muslim population and it was during a political conference, I would've sooner thought it'd be a bunch of crazy anarchists.
DJ-Civic - July 8, 2005 01:11 PM (GMT)
I wasn't expecting this, I can tell you that. Makes me think if we're next...
BrotherEstapol - July 8, 2005 01:19 PM (GMT)
It's my understanding that there were 4 blasts; 3 in the Tube, and 1 Double Dekker Bus.
This is no good, and you have to really wonder what goes through these people's heads...
[m]averick - July 8, 2005 01:40 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE (DJ-Civic @ Jul 8 2005, 11:11 PM) |
| I wasn't expecting this, I can tell you that. Makes me think if we're next... |
What exactly would they hit? And Australia isn't even in the G8 summit (if that's the conspiracy theory you wish to subscribe to).
BrotherEstapol - July 8, 2005 02:08 PM (GMT)
| QUOTE ([m) |
averick,Jul 8 2005, 11:40 PM] | QUOTE (DJ-Civic @ Jul 8 2005, 11:11 PM) | | I wasn't expecting this, I can tell you that. Makes me think if we're next... |
What exactly would they hit? And Australia isn't even in the G8 summit (if that's the conspiracy theory you wish to subscribe to).
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I think blowing up a landmark such as the Sydney Harbour Bridge or the Opera House would get international attention, and really piss off the locals.
Though strategically, they'd want to hit Russel Offices, Cambel Park and a particulary large "Telstra" telephone exchange.(all in Canberra btw) They say it's a normal exchange, but it's actually goverment communitcations exchange. You'd probably figure that out for yourself when you see it, cause this thing has walls that are like 3 foot of concrete with slits for windows, and has very high security.(you can't even take your wallet or phone past the security gates)
My high-school was across the road from that exchange, and when 9-11 happend, we were all a bit concerned, since that would be the place they'd want to strike.(assuming they wanted to fuck-up our defence comms)
But yeah, I doubt they's be targeting anything that large-scale, I mean hell, they went for buses and trains, what cheap bastards. :rolleyes:
Loach - July 8, 2005 03:05 PM (GMT)
They're clearly targeting the rich fat cats that take public transport to work every day.
[DZ] - July 8, 2005 09:23 PM (GMT)
Anyone seen
DIRTY WAR? :/ Anything familiar? ;)
[m]averick - July 10, 2005 06:44 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (BrotherEstapol @ Jul 9 2005, 12:08 AM) |
| QUOTE ([m) | averick,Jul 8 2005, 11:40 PM] | QUOTE (DJ-Civic @ Jul 8 2005, 11:11 PM) | | I wasn't expecting this, I can tell you that. Makes me think if we're next... |
What exactly would they hit? And Australia isn't even in the G8 summit (if that's the conspiracy theory you wish to subscribe to).
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I think blowing up a landmark such as the Sydney Harbour Bridge or the Opera House would get international attention, and really piss off the locals.
Though strategically, they'd want to hit Russel Offices, Cambel Park and a particulary large "Telstra" telephone exchange.(all in Canberra btw) They say it's a normal exchange, but it's actually goverment communitcations exchange. You'd probably figure that out for yourself when you see it, cause this thing has walls that are like 3 foot of concrete with slits for windows, and has very high security.(you can't even take your wallet or phone past the security gates)
My high-school was across the road from that exchange, and when 9-11 happend, we were all a bit concerned, since that would be the place they'd want to strike.(assuming they wanted to fuck-up our defence comms)
But yeah, I doubt they's be targeting anything that large-scale, I mean hell, they went for buses and trains, what cheap bastards. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, but all the attacks so far, the main ones (9/11, Bali and now London) have been aimed at civilians. Not at defence comms or anything like that.
BrotherEstapol - July 10, 2005 07:38 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE ([m]averick @ Jul 10 2005, 04:44 PM) |
| Yeah, but all the attacks so far, the main ones (9/11, Bali and now London) have been aimed at civilians. Not at defence comms or anything like that. |
Yeah I said that:
| QUOTE (BrotherEstapol @ Jul 9 2005, 12:08 AM) |
| But yeah, I doubt they's be targeting anything that large-scale, I mean hell, they went for buses and trains, what cheap bastards. :rolleyes: |
I don't quite think the terrorists are quite clever enough to be able to get into any high-security goverment facilities.
Unless of course they just fly a plane into one.
*looks at Pentagon*
evO - July 10, 2005 07:45 AM (GMT)
Any idiot can walk upto their local power sub-station and blow it up. There is no security besides a wire fence with some flimsy barbed wire.
Beast - July 10, 2005 11:54 AM (GMT)
I'd say it's pretty unlikely that Australia would be attacked - although certainly possible. Australia is such an insignificant country in the rest of the world. If we pull out or troops from Iraq we really aren't going to make much difference and we don't have troops in Saudi Arabia and we're not really supporting any middle eastern dictators like the US is, so there isn't much that would be achieved by attacking us.
If we were attacked it would defintily be by local people who wanted to help the Islamic Extreamist cause but couldn't travel to somewhere significant - the think globally act locally policy.
evO - July 11, 2005 12:15 AM (GMT)
| QUOTE (Beast @ Jul 10 2005, 09:54 PM) |
I'd say it's pretty unlikely that Australia would be attacked - although certainly possible. Australia is such an insignificant country in the rest of the world. If we pull out or troops from Iraq we really aren't going to make much difference and we don't have troops in Saudi Arabia and we're not really supporting any middle eastern dictators like the US is, so there isn't much that would be achieved by attacking us.
If we were attacked it would defintily be by local people who wanted to help the Islamic Extreamist cause but couldn't travel to somewhere significant - the think globally act locally policy. |
If it weren't for Australian troops, Vietnam would have been a lot, lot worse.
I agree, though, that it would be by locals, and not international terrorists. As you said, we are pretty insignificant in some aspects.
Beast - July 11, 2005 03:03 AM (GMT)
I don't think you can speculate as to how Vietnam would have turned out without Australian troops. Perhaps the US would have sent the extra an extra 6,000 or however many we had over there, lowering the number of troops in the US enough that Russia would have the confidence to invade and the world would all be socialist now.
I think it would be accurate to say that Australia was a very minor part of the Vietnam War. If the US or NVA had have pulled out the war it would have had a much greater effect on the war (ie. ended it) compared with Australia pulling out.