I felt this was worthy of discussion. I am simply shocked at the number of crude sexual ads that are appearing. Whilst this has being going on for a while now, they are popping up even before 7:00pm more and more. If they were on later at night, I'd still be unimpressed, but at least little kids wouldn't be watching.

The last straw for me was the Lynx Touch ad. Anyone who saw the full version of the ad will know what I mean. I am stunned that we have reached a point where this kind of ad barely registers a murmer. What the hell are the ratings board doing? It's like they don't even exist. Ads which, ten years ago, would be considered porn, are everywhere, on huge banners in public where little kids are. It just disgusts me.

If they were only in places where kids wouldn't see them I wouldn't be so bugged, but seriously, have some taste advertisers.

Sex isn't so bad guru, hell seeing it on a blillboard would be better then catching your own parents at it. Other then that yeah there getting low brow and less intelligent too, but that seems to be the what works.

STOP WHINING CHRISTIAN


Never really seen what's so despicable about early sex-exposure; counsellor explains the reproductive process to five-year-olds, they go YUKCOOTIES and return to eating sand and monkeybars. They enter adolescense and take an interest in the opposite sex. A NATURAL MODERN CYCLE: it won't go to shit because BREAST got infinitesimally more public.

I'd sooner bring my kids up in the real world - the grim, titillating, ultra-competitive world - as opposed to your Disney recourse, Maude.

Wow, h&r is actually making some sense!

I'd much rather have my children see some sex than violence. I mean, sex is natural, unlike the violence we see on TV these days.

Some of the things you take umbridge at Guru, has me thinking you must have been raised in a box. Desensitisation isn't a bad thing, no matter how much your ye olde mantra thinks.

By the way, it is so tempting to take the obligatory and cheap Christianity stab right now ala H&R but I'll leave the reference implied thank you.

I love that ad :D
I don't really think that it's a major problem yet. If the ads go any further, with actual nudity, then that could be a problem. Maybe you just need to lighten up ;), because even my mum likes that ad :P.

So are you honestly saying you'd be perfectly happy with your 5 year old kids being exposed to nudity, sex and porn?

And for heaven's sakes, can anyone discuss a topic I'm involved in without bringing up religion? Geez, it's like you haven't got any other leg to stand on (which I know isn't true). Keep it focused. The issue I'm trying to raise is children need to be exposed to such things in controlled situations, or they'll be confused or not understand it's significance or importance. Emotional stress that can come with it, protection, etc.

Believe it or not, exposing things to children pre-maturely can do damage. I suppose you would agree with me a small child seeing rape can scar him. Where do you draw the line?

Let's put it this way. I'd rather have my 5 year old see American Pie or There's Something About Mary than Harry Potter 3.

Really? Why is that?

I can't stand those tasteless personal ads on during the night-owl period. They are just so lame (Call 1900 555 Oh!-Oh!-Oh!) whats worse is sometimes you can go entire ad breaks only having seen ads for personals.

The Ford ads are sexist. But I love Ford. And Lynx smells okay. People need to be more creative with their ads. Like Homers "Mr Plough" ad, it has a catchy tune, thats why I still remember it after years!

LIFE isn't a controlled situation. Children don't grow in controlled situations, they go "yeah, but my mum said there was lollies can I have lollies I want LOLLIES!"

And no, I'd have no problem exposing a child to sex on television or pornography. They tend to inordinately react by getting embarrased and turning to their Lego. Yeah.

Well, what's so bad about TSAM or American Pie? Wow, some crude sexual jokes and maybe a pair of bare breasts? How on earth is that going to harm the child?

On the other hand, you have Harry Potter 3. Let's see what's in there. There's beings that suck out your soul, with rotting hands and gruesome faces. Not a good start. and there are, of course, some relatively violent confrontations.

Now, think about it - which movie is going to give the child nightmares?

Porn where is the porn, I know plenty of poeple who had caught there parents having SEX(yeah it's such a dirty word) around that age, it didn't do them any lasting harm. Kids knowing what sex normally leads to them not being embrassed about finding out how to go about it safely when they're ready. Sex I don't think is nearly as big as a problem as violence, between the two surely sex is better. The Dali Lama thinks so.

One thing I really can't stand is the adultmatchmaker commercials, especially the gaymatchmaker. When that happens I flick over the channel and wait for the program to come back on.

Some commercials around the early night do push the boundary occasionally. But I don't really have a problem with them. Perhaps it's because I don't have any children (or any flatmates), there's nobody I have to stop from watching it (like in the case of the movie 'Ring')

Clearly the words of an immature, inexperienced person. I'm not going to waste my time backing up that comment, h&r. I hope you stick around these forums until you have kids then re-read your post. You'll realise how ignorant you were back 'then'

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How do you know the kid will just ignore the porn and play Lego's?? :huh: Don't tell me you've tried it cos I know you didn't! And life can be controlled. Parents have the authority (until the child grows up of course), and can (or try to some extent) control what their children are exposed to.
And that "lollies" example you gave is stupid, its really, really stupid. Jeez. :blink: Grow up.

I wonder when this became a debate about porn. It isn't. It's about some rather risque ads being shown in prime-time. Jenna Jameson it ain't.

Hello sycophant, my name is Nature. I've this knack of balancing things out: getting children to rebel against unrealistic boundaries set before them, for instance. It's better for all involved if I get to do my sex stuff earlier on as opposed to teenhood, say, where hormonal turmoil and general impressionability could spell seriously fucked-up results like sexism, ephebophobia and even rape.

But pooncey conservative doctrine presumes it can prevent me, that I am just like Santa Claus or the Easter Bunny and that only they Know What's Best For The Little Ones.

Even if the child doesn't get embarrassed, it will get bored. It will find nothing of interest, and go play with its Lego.

The Lynx ad - do you think the child will understand any of it? I don't think so. Same with the jokes in TSAM, for example the 'hair gel' one. The child won't understand it, will get bored and will go play with its Lego.

Film Guru, Christianity is brought up in every thread you discuss in because you've come to embody the mindless Christian conservative whom everyone resents in this day and age. The reason you've gained this image is because you create threads like this and argue outdated ideals like trying to shield people from swearing or overly violent and sexual materials. The stereotype you embody also has connotations accompaigning it. Basically, people assume you're not intelligent, overly conservative, overly and wrongly moral and finally, base every argument on Christian ideals which are outdated.
If you can shed this stereotype, you'll start getting people's respect and they'll take more out of your arguments.

Funny, I figured it was called an opinion.

See, the catch twenty two of what you say is based on other unrelated and unproven debates. In order to prove you wrong, I would have to whip out fifty other discussion topics, of course completely ruining the original discussion at hand. This happens in every bloody thread that requires an opinion. People assume too much, could it be possible, just maybe, that I actually have an opinion? I know, shocking concept.

What several people here have done is leapt to the assumption that I have absolutely no basis for my opinion besides a Bible. Something which is becoming increasingly tiring, and frustrating. I hate having to deal with idiots in every damn thread which requires me to take a side on a subject. And "not participating" because of other idiots is not a solution. I guess I just hope every time I bring up a topic such as this one in this forum, people won't rely on these relentlessly stupid attacks and actually ponder the possibility that Christians can actually have an opinion.

And terminology such as "the mindless Christian conservative" are just annoying and ignorant. I guess I could be a idiot too and use phrases such as "the mindless Athiest conservative" and such, but that would be foolish, wouldn't it?



I was gonna explain the reason for my perspective, but what's the point if the intial burst of replies instantly took mindless shots at a belief system unrelated to the subject. Nice one, boys. :rolleyes:

I am curious though, to see how some of your kids will turn out...

Hi.

As I was reading through this topic, I felt the need to inform Film Guru that he started off criticising the suggestive ads on television, but ended up defending kiddies from porn. Maybe it's just me, but I don't see any pornography on television in evening telly and I have never seen obvious sexual acts depicted during a commercial break. You're arguing against suggestive sexual undertones during commercial breaks, not porn. Stick with it.

Now, I'd be inclined to bring up the point that most, if not all of these ads suggest acts and situations that only the 13, 14 + year olds would have a hope of understanding, but I can foresee that you probably don't regard that as a good enough argument, so I won't try and flog it. It's probably bloody true, mind you.

True down until the very last word. You might call it ignorant on our part FG, but that is the way you are percieved from the vast majority, as the replies in this thread have proven. Do something about it if you don't like it... something better than simply calling us ignorant and moving on.

I wish I had thought of saying that much earlier.

Really though FG, you come across as someone with the mentality of a priest living in the 1950's. You talk as though you understand how kids percieve what they see on television, when it is evident that you have next to no idea. You sound like someone who is failing to move with the times, someone happy to flog age-old ideals that common sense has proven to be utter nonsense. Much like the Catholic Church, whis is coincidental...

Or maybe I could stay true to my good ol' persona and conclude you just don't like it because it reminds you of what you're not getting. :)

The irony! It burns!

Hehe... was having an argument on this very topic with this conservative type at my work. We fired him. (unrelated but still, the guy was useless :P).

Anyhoo I've got no problem with the level of smut on TV. In the words of the great Tom Lehrer "Give smut and nothing but. A dirty novel I can't shut, if its uncut, and unsubt....le"

Sex is a very natural part of life and the increasing communication of its existence to younger groups (and please let us remember that in most cultures children were aware of sex from a very young age. Protecting them from that knowledge is only a relatively recent thing when you look at the history of humankind) can be argued that in line with education this awareness o have had certain beneficial effects such as the dramatic drop in teenage pregnancy experienced over the past 30 years in this country.

As for the whole rape thing and where you draw the line. I have an idea for you. How about the line between consent and non-consent. Showing non-consensual displays of physicality is far from what we are talking about and I find it a little disturbing that such a leap of logic was made.

Please don't. The reason why this new account remains is because Jekyll seems to have locked Hyde up in the basement. :P ;)

Now to go further off topic...

FG- I have to agree with what's being said here, as you really do come off like that most of the time...just like h&r comes off as an understimulated individual who reads a thesauraus cover-to-cover before bed every night and only posts here to disagree with people. I think you seem to cop it a bit because it's rare to find people of your age with such strong religious beliefs, especially on a gaming forum, and most of us just don't see things the way you do, and vice versa. Doesn't mean you're not entitled to your opinions though. :)

Anyhoo, this thread goes back on topic now please. The thread is about crude ads, not FG. If FG wants to have himself be the talking point of a thread then I'm sure he'll make one in Off Topic. :P

To be perfectly honest I haven't watched TV for well over a year, getting close to two. Can someone describe for me one of these crude ads? I remember a few being out there, but nothing that I'd deem unsuitable for any audiences. Infact the worst that comes to mind would be that old Bonds Shorties ad. You know the one. ;)

I think that definitely needs to be controlled. There is a certain amount of reality that kids should be limited to while in the process of developing. Sex and violence are just too extreme and life-changing for kids to be exposed to before understanding life's "basics" because the tampering with what isn't fully understood can lead to major, unintentional damage.

Nobody is talking about full close up penetration here. The supposed smutty ads are nothing more than insinuation and its only the adults who are seeing anything smutty there, thats the joy of insinuation and jokes like that.. if you are in on the joke you get it otherwise you don't even know there is a joke to be had.

I feel like having sex after watching the Domino's BBQ ad.

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Actually, I feel like having Domino's and having sex... atthesametime! *ahem*

"IVAN EHT NIOJ"

And I thought your posts couldn't get any worse.... -_-

Of course not, but as the title says, "Increasing crude ads." They haven't reached their point of extremity of which sexual/violent activities themselves are as graphic but they're insinuated and that's enough to have kids curious and react. Flip through the channels and you'll see quite a bit --a horror film trailer on a kids' network (Nickelodeon-I remember the trailer of The Ring) before 7p.m. or MTV with pre-adults humping and grinding in reality TV shows, music videos and whatnot and that's displayed more often and at early hours while kids are still up and about. I don't recall very many graphic commercials because I haven't been watching TV as much lately from the loss of interest but I do remember flipping through the channels and most of what played during early hours were quite inappropriate and seemingly increasing in the level of graphic. I just would like my (future) children to not be exposed to those types of materials until they've reached a certain level of maturity and I think that the shows/commercials etc. on TV will be less strict as time progresses because of this carelessness. Has not any one noticed the already corrupted youth?

FG, MTV is just Caligula by way of Sesame Street. It doesn't corrupt children, its homogeny just turns them into vapid little pussyswats for a few years, until Emo or Metrosecksulety confers onto them Vapid Little Iconoclasts.