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Title: One-terabyte optical discs
Description: Say hello to HVD


h&r - February 5, 2005 05:06 AM (GMT)
Torrentspy:

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Fuji Photo, CMC Magnetics and four other companies have formed a consortium to develop Holographic Versatile Discs (HVD). These discs are expected to hold up to one terabyte of data each. This is enough space for over one hundred movies on a single disc.

HVD uses holographic technology from Optware, a consortium member. The discs are a possible replacement for current Blu-Ray and HD DVD standards. Data access speeds for the discs would be in the one gigabit per second range, which is forty times faster than current technology.

The consortium's first goals are to develop a 200GB recordable disc, and a 100GB read only disc. A 200GB disc would allow between thirteen and eight hours worth of HD TV to be recorded.


C|Net

Call them softdrives or something. I'm not sure whether the technology's scarier than the convenience.

Film Guru - February 5, 2005 05:48 AM (GMT)
Floppin' Heckter! I was excited about Blu-Ray! Now it's already got a supposed successor? Okay, it's official, technology is developing way too fast...

[DZ] - February 5, 2005 09:25 AM (GMT)
Thats bloody huge!! I want it! :P Imagine PS4 with a terabyte disc. Imagine playing GTA 5 on that disc. :drool:

[m]averick - February 5, 2005 09:32 AM (GMT)
QUOTE ([DZ] @ Feb 5 2005, 07:25 PM)
Thats bloody huge!! I want it! :P Imagine PS4 with a terabyte disc. Imagine playing GTA 5 on that disc. :drool:

It certainly was odd to see you relate that to Sony in some way....

h&r - February 5, 2005 09:57 AM (GMT)
I'd have related it to file-sharing, but that's just redundant.

But the scores of scores I could fit on an HVD...Oy vey...

Stevorooni - February 5, 2005 10:26 AM (GMT)
aaargh technology is stupid.

I've barely evolved to dvd and we're already talking a couple of generations ahead.

* Plays music on gramaphone *

kami - February 5, 2005 12:05 PM (GMT)
The main thing that concerns me is how well it'd handle with scratches on it. :|

I'd certainly hate to lose a really big video collection because of a couple of tiny scratches on the surface.

DJ-Civic - February 5, 2005 12:40 PM (GMT)
I expect HVD's to be outdated by next week...

Seriously, those are some impressive numbers, but I imagine the technology is years away in terms of it being affordable to consumers

Moggo - February 5, 2005 01:24 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stevorooni @ Feb 5 2005, 08:26 PM)
* Plays music on gramaphone *

:lol:

Anyway, this is a load of bullshit. This is what I meant in the HD/Blu Ray thread. Technology is moving so fast that if it keeps careering on at its current velocity, we'll be playing frisbee with our DVD discs this time next year because they'll feel so archaic compared to what's on the market, and what's being produced.

I mean, I was planning on buying a DVD recorder soon... but is there any point?

borgster101 - February 7, 2005 01:52 AM (GMT)
QUOTE ([m]averick @ Feb 5 2005, 07:32 PM)
QUOTE ([DZ)
,Feb 5 2005, 07:25 PM] Thats bloody huge!! I want it! :P Imagine PS4 with a terabyte disc. Imagine playing GTA 5 on that disc. :drool:

It certainly was odd to see you relate that to Sony in some way....

Uhh, it was DZ that made the post, I can't see anything odd there :P


Comrade Natrak - February 7, 2005 02:53 AM (GMT)
Borgster, let me introduce you to a new friend. This is Sarcasm. Sarcasm, say hello Borgster. :P

Aaaanyway, if this hits the market not long after HD-DVD and Blu Ray then essentially what will happen is one of the three formats will emerge the victor. I wouldn't be too worried about your DVDs becoming outdated/useless. I mean Super CDs and Audio DVDs are available, but how many of those have you bought over regular CDs over the past year?

Technology may move fast, but it all depends on the consumer and whether or not the consumer adopts the new technology.

Film Guru - February 7, 2005 02:58 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Comrade Natrak @ Feb 7 2005, 12:53 PM)
I mean Super CDs and Audio DVDs are available, but how many of those have you bought over regular CDs over the past year?

Yeah, but the thing is that normal CDs hold more than enough for the average music artist. It's not like because they've been given more space they'll put on more songs...

h&r - February 7, 2005 03:26 AM (GMT)
Well, I buy audio DVDs for music storage (keeps the HD free for games and apps). CDRs just aren't economically viable when you're dealing with tens of gigabytes.

Nascent format technologies are why I don't shell out for reformatted film collections, expensive players, peripherals and the like. Never seen the sense in even having a legitimate "showcase" DVD collection - they're essentially silly testaments to EFTPOS and avarice.

Comrade Natrak - February 7, 2005 03:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (h&r @ Feb 7 2005, 02:26 PM)
Well, I buy audio DVDs for music storage (keeps the HD free for games and apps). CDRs just aren't economically viable when you're dealing with tens of gigabytes.

Yargh, I be talking about Pre-Recorded Audio DVDs ;)

BrotherEstapol - February 7, 2005 08:41 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (h&r @ Feb 7 2005, 02:26 PM)
Nascent format technologies are why I don't shell out for reformatted film collections, expensive players, peripherals and the like. Never seen the sense in even having a legitimate "showcase" DVD collection - they're essentially silly testaments to EFTPOS and avarice.

Oh yeah, I totally agree, it's not like people even watch them or anything. :rolleyes:

h&r - February 7, 2005 08:56 AM (GMT)
But how many times can you view any article of media before it becomes ornamental? The effort and money seems disproportionate to any enjoyment derived.

Besides, the notion that those who bother building them can't see any value in an immaterial self-perception isn't that radical.

Stevorooni - February 7, 2005 10:34 AM (GMT)
Can we contrive a filter that can explicate anything h&r formulates, into English? I'm qualmish from perusing his posts 3 times endeavoring to acquisition the cardinal intendment.


I can see my dvd collection on the shelves no matter what newfangled technology they bring out, the collection is just growing too much. I didn't buy as many videos back when they were the rage, but I still have some of them on the shelves.

Once they come down under $500, I want to buy a combination dvd recorder / vcr / digital receiver with built in hard drive, all in the one unit. I only have so many power points and places in my tv cabinet to put all the crap they keep bringing out.

BrotherEstapol - February 7, 2005 11:16 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stevorooni @ Feb 7 2005, 09:34 PM)
Can we contrive a filter that can explicate anything h&r formulates, into English? I'm qualmish from perusing his posts 3 times endeavoring to acquisition the cardinal intendment.

LMAO!! :lol:

Nice one Stevo! :P

kami - February 7, 2005 10:32 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stevorooni @ Feb 7 2005, 09:34 PM)
Once they come down under $500, I want to buy a combination dvd recorder / vcr / digital receiver with built in hard drive, all in the one unit. I only have so many power points and places in my tv cabinet to put all the crap they keep bringing out.

But you risk not being able to watch anything should the device break down :)

Though do they even have anything like that? DVD player/VCRs I've seen, but I don't think I've seen any with a digital set top box with receiver in it as well.

Stevorooni - February 7, 2005 10:54 PM (GMT)
I've seen dvd recorders mixed with vcrs
and digital receivers mixed with dvd recorders with hard drives.

Now we just need the final merge to take place.

Moggo - February 8, 2005 03:13 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Stevorooni @ Feb 7 2005, 08:34 PM)
Can we contrive a filter that can explicate anything h&r formulates, into English? I'm qualmish from perusing his posts 3 times endeavoring to acquisition the cardinal intendment.

:lol:

Hear, hear Steveo!

In contrast to H&R's moronic viewpoint, I've probably watched 'The Office' DVD's about 20 times over. I've watched the LOTR movies regulary since purchase, same with Star Wars, etc. All my comedy collection gets a run through at least once every 6 - 12 months. The convenience of having them there when I want them is worth the price for me. Oh, and the fact that they look so good all lined up nicely. :)

Manny M - February 8, 2005 03:44 AM (GMT)
Sometimes I often wonder why I buy DVDs. So here's a movie I liked, am now paying $30 for, and am probably only going to ever watch once again... but that doesn't stop me from going mental every time I enter JB Hi-Fi. But then again, some DVDs, like Seinfeld, the Simpsons, Futurama... and just comedy in general, I watch over and over again.

I think I just need to be real selective of what I buy from now on.

On the topic of the topic, i'm with Moggo about tech moving so fast, that we can't keep up. I have spent a bit on DVDs, and i'll be damned if they go out of style within 10 years. Yes, 10!!

[m]averick - February 8, 2005 05:09 AM (GMT)
When you think about it, the VCR still hasn't been superseded. It still has a pace in our home and I'm sure most homes. We have a DVD recorder, but still use the VCR, so lets not go nuts just yet with all this talk of new media coming out to replace DVD's.

[DZ] - February 8, 2005 06:07 AM (GMT)
Relax Manny. According to "rumours", Microsoft will be using the DVD for their Xenon. But thats just that, "rumour".
Like mav points out, the VCR still isn't dead, hell, vinyl is still selling! The only dead thing is Laser Discs, and thank god for that useless piece of crap!

Stevorooni - February 8, 2005 06:26 AM (GMT)
I hope that the PS3 uses Beta Video Tapes...

h&r - February 8, 2005 12:59 PM (GMT)
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Can we contrive a filter that can explicate anything h&r formulates, into English? I'm qualmish from perusing his posts 3 times endeavoring to acquisition the cardinal intendment.


I must admit, it's a fabulous get-outta-jail-free card. "Well, shit, I haven't any concrete rebuttle; hey, I can just drain his bath water by way of convenient public stigma!

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I've probably watched 'The Office' DVD's about 20 times over. I've watched the LOTR movies regulary since purchase, same with Star Wars, etc. All my comedy collection gets a run through at least once every 6 - 12 months. The convenience of having them there when I want them is worth the price for me. Oh, and the fact that they look so good all lined up nicely.


Spending a mint flaunting any collection isn't healthy. That so many actually value, through practice, the notion of spending to hoard is appaling. That many even come to convince themselves that they ARE their goods is disgusting.

Piracy and file-distribution means proprietary media becomes a marginalised aspect of life - given profuse resources and access - allowing more time for better persuits, namely loving your loved, personal development, sex, reading, education, pub-crawling and Boggle. This is subjective, certainly, but I wouldn't put it past you to turn it into vaunted evangalism on my part.

You needn't mind researching anything I've ever said on anything, though - let alone the fact that it's confluent: you're still on the prowl. And I don't mind a second scuff. Really. Christ knows you're ill-equipped to even entertain, let alone argue the relevant issues.

Moggo - February 8, 2005 01:37 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (h&r @ Feb 8 2005, 10:59 PM)
Piracy and file-distribution means proprietary media becomes a marginalised aspect of life - given profuse resources and access - allowing more time for better persuits, namely loving your loved, personal development, sex, reading, education, pub-crawling and Boggle. This is subjective, certainly, but I wouldn't put it past you to turn it into vaunted evangalism on my part.

That's the best justification for piracy that I've ever heard.

Not only is it weak, it also borders on the insane. Nothing unusual, then.

[m]averick - February 9, 2005 05:06 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Moggo @ Feb 8 2005, 11:37 PM)
Not only is it weak, it also borders on the insane. Nothing unusual, then.

Plus you spelt rebuttal incorrectly

Stevorooni - February 9, 2005 06:05 AM (GMT)
and 'pursuits'.

I wasn't going to say anything, I was afraid of bath water and convenient public stigma...

Film Guru - February 9, 2005 07:34 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Moggo @ Feb 8 2005, 11:37 PM)
QUOTE (h&r @ Feb 8 2005, 10:59 PM)
Piracy and file-distribution means proprietary media becomes a marginalised aspect of life - given profuse resources and access - allowing more time for better persuits, namely loving your loved, personal development, sex, reading, education, pub-crawling and Boggle.  This is subjective, certainly, but I wouldn't put it past you to turn it into vaunted evangalism on my part.

That's the best justification for piracy that I've ever heard.

Not only is it weak, it also borders on the insane. Nothing unusual, then.

Agreed completely. What the hell made you think that pathetic excuse for a justification made any sense?! :blink:

borgster101 - February 9, 2005 10:14 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (Comrade Natrak @ Feb 7 2005, 12:53 PM)
Borgster, let me introduce you to a new friend. This is Sarcasm. Sarcasm, say hello Borgster. :P

Aaaanyway, if this hits the market not long after HD-DVD and Blu Ray then essentially what will happen is one of the three formats will emerge the victor. I wouldn't be too worried about your DVDs becoming outdated/useless. I mean Super CDs and Audio DVDs are available, but how many of those have you bought over regular CDs over the past year?

Technology may move fast, but it all depends on the consumer and whether or not the consumer adopts the new technology.

:lol: Alright you got me there.

h&r - February 10, 2005 01:58 PM (GMT)
I AM misspelling - you lot enjoy the nitpicking (see: Readman); I only bother editing typos. If I can't give people what they want, but how I want it, I'd be reading or loving or something.

More importantly, I want to know why not basing a concept of how things interrelate on those volumes of mandates is misguided and irrefutably THESUXZLOLS. I mean hey, you gentlemen seem very good at conclusion and dismissal. What cornerstones of progressive thought!

But somebody, critique the "excuse". Really. You're an informed cosmopolitan. You know your stuff. You're not smug. That's why you're capable of explaining why Thins sucks but Doritoes rock the Lord. Challenge my idea and do so logically and perceptively.

BrotherEstapol - February 10, 2005 03:11 PM (GMT)
I hope you don't think you're being smart by using different, scarcely used words, cause you're coming accross as a total cockhead. I mean, if you're going to effort to use all those fancy words, the least you can do is spell them properly...and it wouldn't hurt if you used the words the right context as well.

Anyways, this thread is about the new terrabyte sized Discs, not piracy, so if you want to discuss piracy(the moral side; not how to get it and/or where to get it) then make a thread for it.
Otherwise, stay On Topic please. :)

h&r - February 10, 2005 11:48 PM (GMT)
Except for how I've used nothing in improper context. Consulting dictionaries instead of public opinion might put things a little clearer. It's very possible that words have contexts you haven't encountered before, that I have. And vice versa.

And yes, on-topic is good. HVD'll allow myself and others to trivialise media even more efficiently.


~DC - February 11, 2005 02:40 AM (GMT)
Shit, when did "THESUXZLOLS" become a word found in dictionaries?

h&r - February 11, 2005 04:14 AM (GMT)
Shouldn't you be ratting out Shakespeare, Carroll and Seuss too, DC? You do know what they did with language, correct? You might not - there probably aren't any Shapkespeare pre-order boxsets out yet. Or Alice In Wonderland HBO mega-mini-series platinum triple collectors' edition super sets.

Moggo - February 11, 2005 04:27 AM (GMT)
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I AM misspelling - you lot enjoy the nitpicking (see: Readman); I only bother editing typos. If I can't give people what they want, but how I want it, I'd be reading or loving or something.


What?

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Challenge my idea and do so logically and perceptively.


How can we do this accurately when your idea is illogical and unsympathetic to the fundamental ideals of the English language? You cut it to ribbons and make a mockery of everything literates like Tolkien stood for. You are not articulate, and you are not linguistically insightful. You are a comprehensive fool whose ignorance is almost nauseating. Your palpable intelligence is tainted and demoralised by your unfortunate - but for me, hilarious - lack of understanding of how to effectively communicate and express your acquired knowledge. It is disappointing -- but highly satisfying considering your arrogance -- that someone with potential such as yours is universally perceived as a complete cockhead incapable of justifying his abilities. You are a waste.

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Except for how I've used nothing in improper context.


Cosmopolitan is incorrect in the context you used it for. Eat that with your curry.

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Consulting dictionaries instead of public opinion might put things a little clearer. It's very possible that words have contexts you haven't encountered before, that I have. And vice versa.


No, I’m sorry, that isn’t the case. You’ve fabricated your own contexts for these words and spew them forth with disturbing frequency. I read all types of literature, media and editorial prose and I have never once encountered the words you use in the contexts you use them in. You use them unnecessarily and incongruously. The contexts you have conjured up to use these words are irrational and absurd. They have no cohesion and they only act as a basis for others to laugh at you. Either give up trying to prove yourself, or go away and don’t come back.

BrotherEstapol - February 11, 2005 04:46 AM (GMT)
H&R:It seems you have blocked out the occasions where you you have used completely wrong words for the situation.
They may have been contexts that I haven't come accross before, but that doesn't mean they are in the correct context.

Comparing your writing style to Seuss, Shakespeare and Carrol is laughable; at least a normal person can understand what they write.
The shit you spurt out is bordering on jibberish.

I think it's wise that stop here, what with me having to be a good example and all that...

Stevorooni - February 11, 2005 05:01 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BrotherEstapol @ Feb 11 2005, 02:46 PM)
I think it's wise that stop here, what with me having to be a good example and all that...

Don't worry, we don't respect you enough to follow your example anyway! :P









Please don't ban me... :crybaby:

[m]averick - February 11, 2005 05:03 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (BrotherEstapol @ Feb 11 2005, 02:46 PM)
Comparing your writing style to Seuss, Shakespeare and Carrol is laughable; at least a normal person can understand what they write.

I think, I think, he's referring to how Shakespeare made up words such as bump etc. I'm not sure. I have enough trouble deciphering his sentences let alone trying to comprehend them...




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